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Jul 17 2004, 06:50 PM
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R u allowed to use goldfish for pike fishing?
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Jul 17 2004, 07:06 PM
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I believe not, on the grounds that you are introducing a non-native fish, (with a small possibility that it might escape), into the fishery. Many pike waters ban bringing livebaits from other waters anyway
-------------------- You meet all kinds of animal on the riverbank.
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Jul 17 2004, 07:09 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,188 Joined: 30-April 04 From: EAST LONDON Member No.: 4,930 |
and infections and desieses(cants spel-too early!) are rife in fish shops(if that where you was intentding to by them)you might be able to use them as deads tho,not sure, anyone???
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Jul 17 2004, 09:55 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,253 Joined: 26-September 00 From: East Anglia/Norfolk Broads Member No.: 364 |
Can't see the need! Blessed expensive livebait and guaranteed to alienate still further public opinion and livebaiting.
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Jul 18 2004, 03:01 AM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,307 Joined: 20-May 02 From: Ireland Member No.: 2,123 |
QUOTE Pangolin: All fisheries ban moving live fish.....even I know that over here!!!!
I believe not, on the grounds that you are introducing a non-native fish, (with a small possibility that it might escape), into the fishery. Many pike waters ban bringing livebaits from other waters anyway -------------------- IF YOUR DOG THINKS YOU ARE THE BEST
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Jul 18 2004, 03:56 AM
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It is an offence under the Countryside and Wildlife Act to introduce non-native species into the wild.
It is an offence to introduce any fish to waters without a section 30 consent from the Environment Agency. Many anglers would consider such actions to be an environmental crime of the highest magnitude. If you want to use a gold coloured bait use a dyed dead bait. Golfish are cyprinids and can carry any amount of diseases which might infect the local population, particularly other cyprinids i.e. carp. You should not use them. Alive or dead, unless theyhave been deep frozen for some time. Mike -------------------- Join the SAA today for only £10.00 and help defend angling.
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Jul 18 2004, 04:16 AM
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AN Resident Contrarian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,951 Joined: 18-September 01 From: farnham surrey Member No.: 1,265 |
quote:if the fisheries were quite close surley digging a small trench from one to the other and "shooing" the fish along it into an open keepnet in the destination pond wouldnt actually moving them as they would be under their own steam and therefore moving themselves. also an enterprising fisherperson could train a pidgeon (as they can be quite bright) to dabble its little feet in fish spawn until covered and fly to the destination where they shake their little feet into an awaiting keepnet with very fine mesh a few hundred trips and a couple of years wait and hey-presto naturally occuring transferance ,with 3 keepnets each one used in alternate years a never ending supply could be found or you could train eels to carry passengers and get them on wet nights to swiftly slither with their passenger to the other water into an awaiting keepnet where they unhitch their "fares" ,enough eels and wet nights and abracadabra bait fish abound a freezer could be set up at the site to make interlocking ice blocks to create a mini ice flow from one pond to the other culminating in an open keepnet ,fish could then be chased from the pond by trained mink to the edge next to the ice flow ,the terrified fish should (if the mink are well trained ) leap for escape, land on the ice flow and skate into the awaiting keepnet trained cormerants could be used as with chinese ones to catch fish pass them on to other trained cormerants who would then fly to the other pond and drop them in the keepnet a wormhole could be fashioned by sqeazing time and matter using a pair of molegrips one end could be dropped it the supply pond and the other in the open keepnet in the other ,any fish swimming near the entrance would appear in the keepnet in a flash see you CAN transfer fish with impunity -------------------- |
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Jul 18 2004, 07:02 AM
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I don't use livebaits any more. My choice. But when I did, I did it wholesale, just as every other keen pike angler did in the 1970s. I had a string of oxgenated tanks containing hundreds of live fish that I could use as bait at will - and they included crucians caught in traps (great in warm autumn weather, but not so good in winter), bought rainbow trout (great free-roamers but useless on paternosters), roach that I caught myself, and chub that I bought from a bloke on the dole who used to feed his family by selling them at 50p each.
I can't recall a single disease incident or fish mortality caued by this, even though everybody did it at the time. But I CAN recall a lot of serious big carp deaths over the last decade by greedy fishery owners who have introduced new stocks that have SVC'd the existing stocks. I do wonder if the EA have targetted the right people? Happily, the bits of wood, plastic and metal I use to lure pike these days are unlikely to harm any existing stocks.... -------------------- Fenboy
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Jul 18 2004, 01:52 PM
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Goldfish along with all ornementals are very poor livebaits compared to natural fish.The years of interbreeding makes them very weak in comparison.
Secondly and more importantly the ornemental trade is rife with disease. |
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Jul 19 2004, 01:02 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 308 Joined: 7-November 02 Member No.: 2,989 |
Cheers all, Just for the record I don't entend to fish with goldfish I was just asking the question.
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