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Apr 18 2004, 12:58 AM
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There have been a couple of threads posted, asking how good these reels are. I have a problem with mine, that I think it's worth sharing because somebody may know of a solution. the problem is that, after casting, I sometimes wind the handle forward, gently, to the point where the bale-arm should flip back over. If I don't hit this point hard enough, the reel gets 'stuck', requiring enormous force on the handle to cause the bale-arm to flip. Last time I used the reel, I ended up using it with the backwind facility on, so that, if I reached this point, I could wind back for a second try. It is clumsy, at best, and could easily lose me fish if I chose to leger with the bale-arm open. Is it just a cheap and nasty reel, or should I persevere?
-------------------- You meet all kinds of animal on the riverbank.
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Apr 18 2004, 01:31 AM
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quote:This is a problem with many fixed-spool reels that have a mechanical, rather than a magnetic, trip for the bail-arm, and the problem isn't confined to Okuma reels .... I've had Shimanos that did the same thing. I am guessing that your Okuma is still new~ish and so I would say persevere with it ... after putting a drop or two of Molyslip (available from motor spares stores) on the pawl and the trip. The reel comes with an expanded diagram of all the parts and how to take it apart, so you shouldn't have a problem. Another way to alleviate the problem, but which can be annoying to others, is to keep tripping the bail-arm while indoors e.g. watching a long TV programme. After a few 100 flips, it should get better. DG |
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Apr 18 2004, 03:57 AM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,499 Joined: 22-November 01 From: Hampshire Member No.: 1,421 |
Simple solution is to not wind it gently, give it some welly, or close it manually if it's possible with this reel.
I normally close a bale arm manually anyway, even though my old Mitchells are not designed like that, it's quite easy to just nudge the little lever that locks it open. -------------------- On average, people have fewer than two feet.
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Apr 18 2004, 08:06 PM
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John, thanks for stating the obvious! I'd just rather not have to remind myself about the reel problem as I see a bite developing. I've been used to using my ABU 505 and 503 closed face reels, which would never have such a problem, and It's difficult to do things differently. DG'S reply is probably quite sensible, but I feel it's a shame the reel can't be made right by the manufacturer. Which are the reels with magnetic trip? They sound a much better bet! My dislike of the Okuma hasn't been helped, I'll admit, by having loaded it with a line that readily springs off the spool, so that I'm always having to strip line off to eliminate loops that have been created. I can't really blame the reel for that but, again, it's not a problem I've had with the closed-face reels. My other recent reel purchase, the Zebco Topic, doesn't have either problem.
-------------------- You meet all kinds of animal on the riverbank.
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Oct 8 2007, 12:02 PM
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AN`s Resident Punk ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,428 Joined: 1-June 01 From: South Wales Member No.: 973 |
i have three of these reels, 2 50i have three of th
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Oct 8 2007, 12:07 PM
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AN`s Resident Punk ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,428 Joined: 1-June 01 From: South Wales Member No.: 973 |
i have three of these reel`s , 2 50`s and a 30, ive had them all for some time now, and havnt had your particular problem, one thing that ocasionally happens to me, but only on the 50`s is the baitrunners some times dont lock on, i find myself fiddling with the reel handle and then reseting it, the thirty on the other hand has worked like a dream since ive had it, as far as i can remember.
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Oct 8 2007, 12:08 PM
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![]() AN Fan Club Leader - Maintenant En France ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Anglers' Net Gold Fish Posts: 5,218 Joined: 20-July 01 From: Renaze,53800, Mayenne,FRANCE. Member No.: 1,123 |
John, thanks for stating the obvious! I'd just rather not have to remind myself about the reel problem as I see a bite developing. I've been used to using my ABU 505 and 503 closed face reels, which would never have such a problem, and It's difficult to do things differently. DG'S reply is probably quite sensible, but I feel it's a shame the reel can't be made right by the manufacturer. Which are the reels with magnetic trip? They sound a much better bet! My dislike of the Okuma hasn't been helped, I'll admit, by having loaded it with a line that readily springs off the spool, so that I'm always having to strip line off to eliminate loops that have been created. I can't really blame the reel for that but, again, it's not a problem I've had with the closed-face reels. My other recent reel purchase, the Zebco Topic, doesn't have either problem. As has been said already the problem is NOT limited to this particular reel. The line problem is I would think because you are using a cheaper line as a reel line? And because the close faced reel is not having problems suggests to me that you are using different line? That and the make up of the reel is different. But I remember having HORRENDOUS problems when the ABU range were the 503 and 505!! -------------------- Chris Goddard
UCKERS! You Manipulative little devils you!!!! (Clue: Retort RHYMES with Uckers!!) RAMMIT mate I'm RDP!!!! http://www.renaze53.com/ |
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Oct 8 2007, 03:06 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 860 Joined: 13-March 07 From: Bath UK Member No.: 11,684 |
On my Okuma interceptor the bale arm doesn't even trip when you wind the handle so you have to flick the freespool lever off manually.
Rather annoying when you forget though and you get in a tangle This post has been edited by Neil G: Oct 8 2007, 03:09 PM |
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Oct 8 2007, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE On my Okuma interceptor the bale arm doesn't even trip when you wind the handle so you have to flick the freespool lever off manually. Yes mine too most times. They do sometimes but so rarely that I hardly bother winding the handle. I just flick the bale arm over manually. I love using Mitchell reels purely for the 'clunk' factor. -------------------- The best time to fish is when you have a chance.
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Oct 10 2007, 04:22 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,666 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Glasgow Member No.: 7,003 |
havnt come across this with either of my 30,50,60 the amount of force used to flick the bail arm i dont like it seems a bit agresive and im sure has caused some damage to my balearm i much more prefer to manualy close it, and as noted above i am also getting problems with the bait runner on my 50 exactly the same as described you need to pull it prety hard to engage it.
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