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> Barbel introduced to Loch Lomond
Leon Roskilly
post Dec 11 2004, 08:30 PM
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See:

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/29513.html


(The rules are different for Scotland)


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post Dec 11 2004, 08:52 PM
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Hi chaps. Perhaps we should stop releasing rainbow trout into waters all over the UK that they are not naitive to (NOTHING PERONAL JUST MAKING A POINT)....please correct me if im wrong but i think rainbows wer introduced into the UK and that includes Scotland a little over 100 yrs ago and that goes for all of the other non naitive spiecies of fish to the UK........ ALL THE BEST ZAPPAGOD
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post Dec 11 2004, 08:55 PM
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Am i missing something here Leon? The vagabonds were said to be introducing young and therefore i would guess small barbel. What was their point? Are they going to come back in ten years to fish?? Maybe I'm being thick.


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post Dec 11 2004, 09:34 PM
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Suprised they aint blamimng pike anglers for it........
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post Dec 11 2004, 09:46 PM
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Am i missing something here Leon? The vagabonds were said to be introducing young and therefore i would guess small barbel. What was their point? Are they going to come back in ten years to fish?? Maybe I'm being thick.
yes, I would think so.

Probably barbel enthusiasts who aimed to establish a breeding population in the Loch.


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Peter Waller
post Dec 11 2004, 10:25 PM
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I'm surprised that anyone uses ruffe as a pike bait! To be a usable size makes it practically record size!

Such behaviour does nothing for anglers.

[ 11. December 2004, 04:36 PM: Message edited by: Peter Waller ]


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post Dec 11 2004, 10:44 PM
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There is no evidence that pike anglers introduced ruffe into Lomond.

Just a trout angler's uneducated theory that has become fact with retelling.

As Peter says, ruffe are just about the last fish that a pike angler would want to use as bait!

It's more likely that there is a natural colonisation route, that always failed, until increasing pollution levels in the Loch made it viable for the ruffe to establish themselves and quickly spread.

Just like the roach in Windemere perhaps.

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post Dec 11 2004, 11:35 PM
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The vagabonds were said to be introducing .... small barbel.  
OI!!! biggrin.gif

Not us mate tongue.gif

Vagabond = a wanderer, especially an idle or disreputable one (Oxford Dictionary)

No vagabond would spread barbel - they aren't even any good to eat demon


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post Dec 11 2004, 11:38 PM
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Pike fishermen with a bucket of barbel livebait?
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post Dec 12 2004, 12:07 AM
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There is no excuse for introducing alien species anywhere.

But I suspect the LLAIA "balliffs" couldn't tell the difference between a young barbel and a gudgeon (which exist in large numbers & to a fairy impressive size on the Endrick).

it certainly doesn't do us any favours, especially with the legislative process underway in SEERAD at the moment. I suspect this discovery if not mistaken identity is some sneaky politicing.
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