In the news today is darling saying that we need to put more money into our pensions. Was he not told that brown nicked 5 bill per year already. It is mentioned that there is a trillion black hole in the unfunded state pensions, thats the one's where they retire at 60 and it's within the inflation proof public sector, not for the likes of you and i.

They were quick to support northern rock, however darling is opposed to browns suggestion to offer help to the people who are now finding it difficult to pay mortgages due to increased rising costs. What baffels me is the rate is under 5 yet eveything is going up over 20% are the figures being managed for someones benifit i wonder.

As darling warns us of bad times ahead, just wondering even more if he is gloating over browns decision to sell off all our gold reserves at a 'rock bottom' price that leaves us with no cushion now that the north sea reserves are on the downward slope. Where's all that money gone.

Can't think of anything these two have dealt with that hasen't come up smelling of something other than roses. Still those two are ok, we will pay for thier pensions and are then left with the sweepings. Bless em.

This post has been edited by barry luxton: Sep 1 2008, 06:05 PM

When Tony B. liar was Prime Minister and Gordon "robbing ba****rd" Brown was Chancellor I thought thing couldn't possibly get any worse.
Little did I know

theres statistics and theres government statistics.
saw a strange thing today ,grain has dropped £40 quid a ton yet grain using stuff rises ,now ofcourse to bump the failing price up the weather has again been blamed for making the grain only fit for feed ,theres no standing grain around here so why is their standing grain elswhere?
it can be harvested anytime its ready and dried (about £15 a ton) but ofcourse that is at the farmers expense so they harvest some i presume to store then harvest the rest when its only fit for feed waiting for the price to rise (because they avoided harvesting it causing a shortage) then getting far more for the good stuff

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtm.../20/cmmps20.xml

note the b'stard at the top

this is the official version but with everything else what you see from the gov usually isnt the whole truth ,add in directorships and other prime jobs on the boards of companies etc and its a nice income for the voter to give a job to
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/M05.pdf

and with so many days off (it really matters little if you turn up at all) the holidays are even better than teachers
http://www.parliament.uk/what_s_on/recess.cfm

so when they complain 60 odd thou a year isnt good just remind them they dont fooking work for a year!!! and i wonder how many take their holidays outside the recesses

This post has been edited by chesters1: Sep 1 2008, 07:28 PM

Very good point about the grain, Chesters, so we can expect a drop in the price of the golden priced loaf then. Not holding out much hope of that.

Yes, he was my most favourite mp mr B'stard, unfortunatly he now has a long way to catch up with the real ones.

I liked the one where he was dumping radio active waste underneath the kids school, a classic. And poor old Peirs, reminds me of darling somewhat, just a pra@t.

i think mr b'stard would be considered a new boy in the shenanigans that go on now and all pale into insignificance in the eu parliament

Yep, at the risk of becoming a bore on those two items, I remind y'all of that every few months.

Labour has historically bankrupted this country every time it has held office - normally it just takes one term before theyare rumbled and chucked out. This time, because Labour inherited a strong economy, it has taken them longer . I just hope that next election time they are chucked out for good.

I remember the last time when they had to go cap in hand to the international monetory fund. Toss@rs. After that i think many many thousands of local authority jobs where lost and the uk had to start again. Unfortunatly brown and co have already taken the same road and it will be very difficult to recover. The blame can't be put fair and square on global problems as the pounds worth has dropped to record lows from the euro and the dollar. Our reserves have been wasted already. There is nowt in the pot.

I also note today that oil has dropped by a third from it's high position, 105 instead of 147, wonder how long it will take to lower the cost of fuel in relation to the oil, some hope that will be.

This post has been edited by barry luxton: Sep 2 2008, 07:39 PM

I would have felt sympathy for Darling had he had the job foisted on him, but he opted to accept it after having worked with Brown for long enough to know what they guy is like.

Brown did indeed inherit a strong economy - which was why apart from plundering the pension funds and distancing himself from inflation by passing the buck to the bank of England - he proudly announced that he would stick with the previous Tory government's spending plans. If for a while, Brown did a good job as Chancellor, obviously Kenneth Clark did a far better one - he picked up an economy from the floor and transformed it.

Things started to go badly wrong a few years ago when Brown went on a public sector spending spree claiming that the economy was fundamentally strong enough to fund the massive borrowing requirement. At the same time, Brown authorised the selling of the UK's gold reserves at a time when the commodity was at an all time low price - the astuteness of that decision escapes me and I'm open to education on that.

Now forgive my innocence here, isn't part of the Chancellor's job to be aware of the overall world economy and to be proactive to protect a sound financial base for our own?

There are things that Darling has mismanaged with aplomb - Northern Rock is a prime example.... but given his predecessor's looming presence, who made the decisions, Darling or Brown (who is, after all, First Lord of the Treasury and thus ultimately responsible)?

"Public sector spending spree".. do you mean hospitals and schools ?

So Darling is responsible for the price of tackle going up almost every day?

As Chester says, most of the harvest was in before it got wet.

I see price increases almost every where I look, mostly the excuse (?) is that it is due to "transport costs" Some of the stuff has been on the shelf for months!

Profiteering and sheer greed are the main reason and beyond any ministers control, in fact I think the whole economy is running out of control. Strikes for more pay are on the increase.

Some are asking why the Gov't can bail out Northern rock and not do the same for mortgage payers, and pensioners suffering from high fuel prices. Well they probably could if they took the money from somewhere else....hospitals and schools??

Maybe from oil co profits???

Chancellor? bloody nightmare of a job, but every one seems to have the answer.

Den

it only takes a hint that X or Y are scarce and the price rises ,you can bet those hints are fed to the media to ensure they do whether they are truthful is neither here nor there profits come first.
there was one about the potato crop not being very good because the weather was wet errrrrr just a minute the local potato farmer uses thousands of gallons watering his crop and no doupt charges more because he has to!! you cant have it both ways ....sorry it appears industry and farming can
lying in bed last night and i could faintly smell an annual smell the smell of rotting leeks in the land fill ,rotting because their dumped to keep the price up
next the smell of cabbage thats an annual thing too ,they are though just plowed back in .nice cabbages too, tasty!

This post has been edited by chesters1: Sep 5 2008, 10:13 AM