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Feb 23 2005, 09:01 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 106 Joined: 4-January 05 From: Newton Mearns, Glasgow Member No.: 5,969 |
I know that some people might think this is off-topic, but I did check with our esteemed moderators who suggested that this forum held the most intelligent, helpfull and courteous anglers who may be able to answer my questions.
(If I dont get a reply after that intro then there is no hope!) I am one of 3 fishing buddies who fish for Ferox, (known by some as cannibal trout). Our research has shown that their favoured bait is Char. Our problem is that the Char are every bit as difficult to catch as the Ferox. We are told tales by fellow anglers that Char like to come near shore at certain times of the year, but no-one seems to know why or when. Does anyone know the lifecycle of these fish and the best methods and times of the year to fish for them. We're based around the Glasgow area, but our Caravan and Boat reside 25miles north of Fort William giving us a large catchment area from which to choose. Any help will be greatly recieved. We hope to improve on last seasons 4 doubles up to 16.5lbs. -------------------- Ferox are more than Mythical. www.darkmileferox.co.uk
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Feb 23 2005, 09:08 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,669 Joined: 13-June 02 From: West Yorkshire Member No.: 2,232 |
Can't help but I wish you every success in catching your intriguing quarry, especially if you're hoping to improve on those weights.
-------------------- Paul
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Feb 23 2005, 10:08 PM
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 21,717 Joined: 21-November 00 From: Concord, NC, USA Member No.: 463 |
I'm not local to your area so I'd like to first make sure what 'char' we are talking about.
Salvelinus alpinus alpinus aka Arctic Char, Alpine Char, Charr, and a few others. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Salvelinus fontinalis aka brook char, brook trout, and others. ![]() ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ or something else altogether. -------------------- "Democracy dies when the people wanting their government to take care of them outnumber those wanting to take care of themselves." - Author Unknown - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - For a selection of lures, reels and other items, visit my eBay shop http://stores.ebay.com/JaNewt-eMart |
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Feb 23 2005, 11:05 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 642 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 4,263 |
Unless you are catching Arctic char from introduced stocks I would question the use of them as bait.
They are fairly rare in the United Kingdom and due to the nature of the habitat that they require may become rarer. Here is a link for the interested, .homeandleisure.co.uk/_fishing/f...ist/index.shtml |
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Feb 24 2005, 01:03 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,592 Joined: 10-May 00 From: Ashford,Kent Member No.: 142 |
Ferrox may in deed eat char but they take 5" live rainbows and lures just as well! I to would question using char as bait to.I can only speak from experience on Awe and Akraig.
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Feb 24 2005, 01:14 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,592 Joined: 10-May 00 From: Ashford,Kent Member No.: 142 |
Mind you after saying all that do they still commercially fish for char on Windemere and the likes? would be a source to look in to.Never really seen why they fish for them!anyone seen char on the menu in Lake District restraunts? :confused:
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Feb 24 2005, 01:57 AM
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I spend time fishing for most species of fish. The most prolific char lochs are above ullapool. I ve had good bags of them from con ursal and a few others around there. My mate runs a fishery and he gets supplies of char from a fish farm, Im not sure which one buttry ae by dumfries , they might be able to put you right.
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Feb 24 2005, 02:25 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 106 Joined: 4-January 05 From: Newton Mearns, Glasgow Member No.: 5,969 |
Thanks to all who replied. I'm chasing a stockist as suggested. It is arctic char I'm talking about and we have taken a few but all in the 3 to 4 lbs range and all by ledgering maggots in deep water. (100 to 200 feet0 These are returned.
We also operate a strict catch and return poilcy on the Ferox with the exception of the odd one on an occasional trip, when my Egyptian Sister-in-Law gets a taste for home made fish dishes for which trout seem perfect. (I know trout are probably not native to the Nile but she assures me they taste of home - go figure). Again thanks for all the replies - most appreciated. -------------------- Ferox are more than Mythical. www.darkmileferox.co.uk
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Feb 24 2005, 02:43 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,669 Joined: 13-June 02 From: West Yorkshire Member No.: 2,232 |
quote:Don't know if they still do now, but plenty of the waterside hotels around Windermere and Coniston used to offer them in the late eighties. -------------------- Paul
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Feb 24 2005, 05:59 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 106 Joined: 4-January 05 From: Newton Mearns, Glasgow Member No.: 5,969 |
Thanks Budgie.
We fish the Awe, Arcaig, Quoich and use rainbows and lures. The point about looking for Char as bait relates to a book published on Ferox Fishing. I'll post the title and author later when I get home. The learned professor who wrote the book has a complicated theory on the origins of the different trout species related to the Ice Age. He also alludes to the Ferox being the wolves with the Char being the sheep. (Bear with me here!). On the basis of this we managed to source some char deadbaits from a fish farm in Aberdeen. We used them on both the Quoich and the Arcaig and we noticed a big improvement in the number of hits we encountered. Now whether the theory is true or not, we are convinced that this bait is superior to both other deadbaits and artificial lures. Unfortunately the farm in Aberdeen no longer supplies Char. This was the precursor to my original question. If you fish the Quoich or the Arcaig at any time, you might just come across some pretty nice Ferox. Great fighting fish so tight lines and thanks. -------------------- Ferox are more than Mythical. www.darkmileferox.co.uk
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