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#1 Ian Burrett

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 12:53 PM

Greenpeace are starting a campain to stop Supermarkets selling endangered fish species. Unfortunatley its a pdf document so i couldn't copy and paste the relevant bit.

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/MultimediaFil...Report/6108.pdf

Could be a vehicle to protect the small shark.
www.ssacn.org

www.tagsharks.com

www.onyermarks.co.uk

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 12:56 PM

.....Meanwhile they are challenging, in the courts, the UK's decision to ban pelagic pair trawling within the 12 mile limit. Go figure! :confused:

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 12:59 PM

MJB, I must admit that I have not heard of this and given that Greenpeace were following pair trawlers recently it does sound a bit odd - Can you direct me to the source of your information?

Thanks mate :)

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 01:01 PM

It was in some information I was sent today from the B.A.S.S. BMP team.

"We are due to meet with Defra again very shortly, to dot the i's and cross the t's on the content of the BMP consultation papers. We're running behind schedule because Defra's legal teams have been in the High Court, defending last year's introduction of a ban on pair trawling within the 12 mile limit.

Greenpeace have taken the Fisheries Minister to court, claiming that the ban will force the pair teams to operate outside the UK's 12 mile limit, where they claim greater damage will be done to cetacean populations, such as the harbour porpoise and common dolphin."

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 01:09 PM

Thanks MJB - I've had a quick look at their site and can't find any ref. to it but will have a closer look later :)

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 01:56 PM

Sometimes it's just a question of having the right technology:

Taken from the document refered to above.

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Emptying our oceans of fish

Oliver Knowles, oceans campaign Globally, destructive fishing practices and overfishing are having a huge impact on ocean biodiversity and are recognised as a key threat to the marine environment alongside climate change. United Nations Food and Agriculture Organisation (UNFAO) statistics show that three quarters of commercial fish stocks are either fully exploited or overexploited and that up to 90% of large predatory fish are already lost worldwide.

Today, if you want to buy seafood youd be hard pressed to get it anywhere but in one of the UKs major supermarket chains. Yet despite the enormous volumes and diversity of fish that they sell, supermarkets have given almost no attention to the impacts of taking so much fish from our oceans. UK supermarkets are in a position to make significant changes to the sustainability of seafood, and this is a the focus of our oceans work starting in the autumn.



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Posted 06 September 2005 - 02:03 PM

Fantastic. I would like to do whatever I can to help and will be getting involved if they need volunteers.

Perhaps they should also be getting the supermarkets to be thinking of ways to kill the black market which is rife in our country.

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 03:02 PM

SandTiger:
MJB, I must admit that I have not heard of this and given that Greenpeace were following pair trawlers recently it does sound a bit odd - Can you direct me to the source of your information?

Thanks mate    :)  

See http://www.anglers-n...ex.php?view=368

Greepeace contends that banning pair trawling only within 12 miles actually causes more harm to dolphins than good, because it forces the trawlers outside of 12 where even more dolphins will be killed.

(The unilateral UK ban only applies to UK boats fishing inside 12 miles. Outside of 12 miles UK boats have to be licensed by DEFRA to pair trawl for bass, limiting the number of UK vessels to what there already is)

Greenpeace wants the ban extended to the UK limits of 250miles.

Unfortunately, whilst we are in the CFP, we cannot do that (even if we were outside the CFP, we could only extend the ban to the median line).

DEFRA are in fact pushing the EU to extend the British ban, both to other nation's vessels that have a traditional (pre-CFP) right to fish in areas within out 12 mile limit (no other nation can come inside 6 miles), and to all EU vessels currently engaged in bass pair trawling within EU waters.

I'm not sure what Greepeace are playing at, they know this.

It could be that their claim that the 12 mile ban is more damaging is accepted, but a wider ban is not legally possible, so that the ban would be overturned and the UK bass pair trawlers allowed back inside 12 miles :(

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 03:04 PM

@AUTUMN@:
Fantastic.  I would like to do whatever I can to help and will be getting involved if they need volunteers.

See: http://www.anglers-n...ex.php?view=366

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 03:10 PM

Reading fishing news recently it says boats are now switching to pair trawling to save on fuel,this practice of fishing is the most destuctive to fish stocks and should be banned ,the trawlers down here are not seeing any haddock this year tthe reason why as local skipper told me this morning they were butchered last year when the herring spawned last year the pair trawlers from peterhead working down here which are 80-90ft boats with massive catching caperbilities and it now looks they did tremendous damage to the haddock stocks of this part of the east coast,i am not sure but i think greenpeace are challenging the 12 mile ruling because theysay they should be stopped pair trawling alltogher which seems logical that way of fishing will sweap the seas dry .

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