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Posted 15 January 2003 - 12:47 AM

Well I bet I catch a few trout on the 25th of the month using maggots and worms trotting a stick float down a nice chalk stream. :P

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Posted 15 January 2003 - 04:46 AM

Newt..
Bit of a plonka, I am..should have noticed or smelt a rat after BB post..I can remember fishing the worm many years ago on the Tay and being sneered at by fly anglers..I caught, they didnt..to fish the worm properly can be an art at times..but even to this day , I know flyfisherman who still look down on bait anglers..snobbery is still alive..

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Posted 15 January 2003 - 11:17 PM

bobbyf:
I know flyfisherman who still look down on bait anglers..snobbery is still alive..

That's just some anglers bobbyf, much the same as some carp anglers look down on some pike anglers...

Personally I like fishing the fly, but I don't give two hoots if someone else prefers to use bait, provided they don't mind me using a fly and they're happy to stick to the fishery rules.

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Posted 16 January 2003 - 12:28 AM

As someone who fishes for all fish from trout to tarpon, marlin to minnows, and dace to dorados, I cannot understand how any one angler should be "looking down" on any other angler.

A great Yorkshire angler, T K Wilson , used to write for Angling Times a weekly piece called "Trout - by all means" covering wetfly, dryfly, spinning, bait fishing, etc etc.

Each branch of angling has its own attractions. My own preference is for "sight fishing" like watching trout rise to a dry fly, carp to a dog biscuit, marlin to a surface lure, or getting roach feeding up in the water.

However, I also enjoy the waiting game - mackerel on the bottom for skate, drifting a livebait for perch, or sitting beside a Texas river waiting for a catfish to find a bunch of worms.

As for trout, most waters are fishable by flyfishing methods, and of course a skilful fly fisher can use a fly in places where a novice would simply get tangled every cast. However, there are plenty of places in the wooded areas of the Weald (and no doubt elsewhere) where the upstream worm is the only feasible option.

I learnt most of my small brook watercraft in such places, before going onto flyfishing larger streams.

However, I have never fished deliberately for trout with a float, but have sometimes caught them accidently whilst float fishing for other species. If I am targetting trout, then IMHO other methods are more interesting and more effective.

As Dick Walker said in "Drop Me a Line" he would not feel sorry for a worm-caught trout, but might feel sorry for the catcher, who would be missing a lot that angling has to offer.

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Posted 16 January 2003 - 03:28 AM

Craig, the derwent at matlock is a good fishery for grayling and trout this time of year is grayling time, go get em. Bob C

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Posted 16 January 2003 - 05:53 AM

The snobbery that exist in fly fishing for Trout is unreal Ö here on the Isle of Lewis it is rife, many fly fishermen here refer to fishing with a worm as fishing with the snake, and look down their noses at anglers whom fish the worm.

I find it so relaxing and exciting sitting on the bank of a loch and watching the bubble float with a worm suspended below it, waiting for some kind of irregular movement in the float, and the excitement when you have to run for the rod once you do get a bite.

If fished with the right tackle, the sport can be terrific, and we are lucky up here, as don't need to purchase a lisence to fish for Brown Trout, there are more lochs with Trout in them than you could ever fish.

I fish the fly on our numerous small Hebridean rivers, and the worm and fly on lochs Ö as stated earlier its really up to the angler to use what they prefer (and are allowed to on the water they are on), as fishing is all about enjoyment, and no one really has a right to criticise I donít think.

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Posted 16 January 2003 - 10:06 PM

It's a snobbery I can't understand.

I fly fish & sometimes find it a very easy & relaxing way of fishing, other times it can be hard getting your presentation right & consequently a tense days fishing.

Now that to me is no different to stick float fishing for Dace, stalking or surface fishing for Carp, or waggler fishing for Roach, the list is endless.

I've done them all, & with a bit of luck will continue to keep on doing them. I can guarantee you this though, they all require a high level of skill to be done correctly.

One thing I have noticed, is if you find an all-round fisherman you could almost bet your last penny he won't be a snob. Now a single species angler who has'nt fished any other way is a totally different proposition.
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Posted 17 January 2003 - 03:53 AM

its snobbery because fluff chuckers usually pay a darn sight more to fish than we do ,on the other hand its great to see them fume when you drag them out from under their noses on bread from the next door neighbours land who has the riparian owner ship of HIS side of the stream (ask billy5000 :D )
it gets very boring though the trout FIGHT the other fish to get to your bait

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Posted 17 January 2003 - 04:36 AM

I think that comments that suggest, that all fly using trout anglers are snobs, are seriously misguided, to put it politely.

I am a "general fisherman" and fly fish for trout,
I have done so for 40+ years.
Whilst I have not fished every trout water in the country, I have never met a "snob", whilst fishing.

I wonder how many of these comments are made through ignorance.
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Posted 17 January 2003 - 04:51 AM

try farnham fly fishers its fun to be hated

Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness  it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

 

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