Eastern Sea Fisheries Joint Committee

[Steve Coppolo]

Does the poor turn out of anglers at any such meetings not illustrate the opposite Steve ? If anglers wanted to be managed and involved in meetings surely they would turn up in their thousands.....

 

Wouldn't they ?

 

There were about 20 or so people at the meeting, which would indicate to me that most anglers don't know they are being 'represented'.

 

I think it's now time that the few people who want to represent everyone else, stopped meddling in other people's business. It's just not right that so few people are able to influence the future of so many people's sport - without their say so.

[barry luxton]

here we go again, yet another topic ruined where the blame is all based on the reps mis-representing yet again. What blame can be put on the reps for this meeting?

 

It ain't the reps that are pulling the strings, it's the men in suits who are trying to protect thier jobs and pensions, how about channelling some of your energy in that direction instead of trying to send us to sleep.

[Elton]

here we go again, yet another topic ruined where the blame is all based on the reps mis-representing yet again. What blame can be put on the reps for this meeting?

 

The primary purpose of this meeting seemed to be to gauge whether we were interested in them setting up another 'body' that would be tasked with representing sea anglers in this area.

 

It ain't the reps that are pulling the strings, it's the men in suits who are trying to protect thier jobs and pensions, how about channelling some of your energy in that direction instead of trying to send us to sleep.

 

I disagree, Barry. The 'men in suits' told us they didn't want an RSA Strategy. It can only be 'representatives' who are pushing for it again, as was the case last time.

[Steve Coppolo]

here we go again, yet another topic ruined where the blame is all based on the reps mis-representing yet again. What blame can be put on the reps for this meeting?

 

It ain't the reps that are pulling the strings, it's the men in suits who are trying to protect thier jobs and pensions, how about channelling some of your energy in that direction instead of trying to send us to sleep.

 

Bary

Why don't you read the posts? It would save you keep having to post questions and telling us how bored you are. If you just read what has been written, all the answers are usually in the posts.

[glennk]

There is non so blind as those who will not see

[H.A.]

There is none so dumb as will not speak!

 

I guess that includes about 270,800, then?

 

Is there a cure?

 

[barry luxton]

The primary purpose of this meeting seemed to be to gauge whether we were interested in them setting up another 'body' that would be tasked with representing sea anglers in this area.

 

 

 

I disagree, Barry. The 'men in suits' told us they didn't want an RSA Strategy. It can only be 'representatives' who are pushing for it again, as was the case last time.

 

I must be missing something here then unless there is a group of 'reps' going around the country or hearing about proposed meetings and getting thier veiws in without anyone else knowing about it. Much like a nod nod, wink wink sect.

 

So thats it then, all we need to do, tell the men in suits to ignore the reps and all will be well.

[glennk]

Just tell the man in suit that SACN has a membership of 600 individual people and that 99.999999% of the sea angling public hasnt even heard of them.

[H.A.]

I think you'll find that the last time a Government Department negotiated with an individual was between 1946 - 48 ... a certain gentleman named Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi.

 

I can't see Defra or Mr Borg offering one on one talks with anglers.

 

As a result of this, stakeholder groups are invited to formal discussions, but everyone is free to attend their 'on the road' consultation meetings.

 

One of our problems (recreational anglers) is that most don't give a damn enough about their pastime to attend or contribute.

 

The best thing the 'Grouchos' could do is join up with and influence or even gain control of a recognised body.

 

Until then, the most you are likely to accomplish is to contribute to your own frustration and sense of failure.

 

Good luck, though!

 

[Elton]

The best thing the 'Grouchos' could do is join up with and influence or even gain control of a recognised body.

 

They could also form their own one, Ada.

 

Just out of interest, who do you see as a 'recognised body'? I was led to believe that the Angling Trust was our 'recognised body', but I can find sweet Fanny Adams on their website about what they are doing on our behalf, or even who they've charged with the task of looking after sea anglers' interests.

 

My last email regarding their policies was ignored, so pointless me trying to ask them anything else.

 

In this instance, we were asked to attend a meeting and give our opinions to the EJSFC representatives. A few people bothered to do so. What is your problem with that?