braided loops

[Meps]

New to the site so excuse any broken protocols!!

Have just replaced floating line with a Snowbee XS and added a braided loop for transition between fly line and leader. I've also cut the loop down to about two inches in length to minimise the water retention of the loop before glueing the rubber sleeve in place.

Problem is, the tip of the fly line still sinks. If i fish buzzers across a wind without regular pulls to keep the line in touch with the surface, the fly line sinks and gradually takes the rest of the line with it so i end up, at the end of a drift, with about three foot of fly line under the surface. This, to my mind reduces presentation and the ability to keep good contact as well reducing the ability to accurately fish through the surface to establish a fish holding depth.. In short, Help!! What am i doing wrong? the fact i'm not catching on a buzzer water could well be down to my lack of basic talent, but the presentation just looks sloppy and wrong???

 

Ta!!!

[Alan Roe]

The answers simple a spot of line grease will solve your problem just wipe it down the last couple or three feet of you line as well as the loop.

Problem solved!

[Meps]

The answers simple a spot of line grease will solve your problem just wipe it down the last couple or three feet of you line as well as the loop.

Problem solved!

[Meps]

The answers simple a spot of line grease will solve your problem just wipe it down the last couple or three feet of you line as well as the loop.

Problem solved!

 

 

To be honest, I'd considered that as the "obvious" option but dismissed it on the basis that I must be doing somrthing wrong in set up.. for me "floating" line plus poly leader (with a little stub inbetween) equals floating set up!!

 

I'm clearly being too ideological!!!

 

At least I know I'm not missing something basic... (Although the odd fish wouldn't go amiss)

 

Thanks!!!

[chuby]

The answers simple a spot of line grease will solve your problem just wipe it down the last couple or three feet of you line as well as the loop.

Problem solved!

 

Indeed

Also some of the braided loops are sinking,some are floating.

[Worms]

Inspect the end of the line carefully as well just to make sure there aren't any cracks that allow water into the line. If there are cut the damaged section out and refix the loop. I always put a blob of waterproof superglue on the end of the line before attaching a loop which helps prevent water seepage.

Edited March 24, 2009 by Worms

[Tony U]

Meps are you using a fluoro carbon leader or a leaded or weighted point fly? If so the thin tip of your fly line may sink; I always gink up the end of the line and the braided loop as this generally keeps the end up in the water.

However id you are using really heavy weighted nymphs then the the tip of the fly line will still sink what ever you do, you could use a buoyant sight bob to try to keep the nymphs suspended and the fly line on top of the water

[OwdTrout]

Often this problem is caused in the manufacture of the line. Lines are extruded in a continuous length. Then cut to size. this leaves the end of the line open to water ingress.

 

Also if your line doesn't have a crack in it now it soon will have. You have glued the sleeve over the braid. Creating a very stiff section. This will eventually cause the line to crack. You will soon have to cut the end off and replace the loop.

 

I've given up on braided loops. The method I use is to strip the last 3/8" (8mm) of coating off the core. Fold this back and whip it to the line to form a loop. I coat the whippings with "Softex", but you will have difficulty getting this. PVA glue with a little water added will do, but make sure it is dry before you fish it. This gives me the benefit of sealing the end of the line as well as making a smooth loop.

 

Cheers,

OT

[Tony U]

OT

Wouldn't the PVA melt in the long term as it is water soluble even after it is set, what about using one of those liquid rubber solutions the carp boys use on their rigs?

Edited March 25, 2009 by Tony U

[OwdTrout]

OT

Wouldn't the PVA melt in the long term as it is water soluble even after it is set, what about using one of those liquid rubber solutions the carp boys use on their rigs?

 

Even better. The PVA I have used is a fly tying one that is used for creating shell backs. I haven't found an alternative for Softex yet.

 

Cheers

OT