FLOATER FISHING NEAR SNAGS???

[jim doyle]

For lead, read controller or float, you sometimes need one of them to help presentation, Anchoring a pop up can be deadly.

[Gaffer]

Jim, if you're over the top of a fish, as you would be when stalking, then fair enough. In fact I use a 9ft 6in Stalking rod with a tc of 1 3/4lbs.

 

But if you're fishing across to bullrushes, at any distance, then you lose the advantage of being over the top ot the fish and in my opinion it's a case of set the hook and bully away from the bullrushes into open water before playing it as normal.

[jim doyle]

As I said I tend to stalk fish, if fishing at distance i use traditional carp rods, if I remember correctly the majority of the first ones were about 11/2 lb test curve, the first stepped up ones were I think mentioned by Jim Gibbinson, and they were Aitkins Superflex 10ft 2lb test curve bass rods. The progession to ever heavier carp rods, has at times filled me with some ammusment, to see 3lb test curve rods used on what are little more than ponds is beyond comprehension. Yes if you are banging leads and baits 120yds but they have no place on most fisheries. I have been known to fish bullrushes/reedmace swims, even with my fly rod, chest wadwers help!!

[Sportsman]

Jim

Can you lend me a pair of those wadwers when we go carp fishing on Wednesday

Dave

[jim doyle]

no!! red wine slip!!!

[jason.p]

Going back to a thread a couple of weeks ago (hard landing) I still think that there can come a time or set of cicumstances where the welfare of the fish should come first and attempts to land it be abandoned. It's all very well to have a plan as to where to land it, ideally in open water, but so often the best laid plans etc. etc.

Wading in may also not be an option, if water is too deep, or not known it's not worth the risk, and stabbing at the fish with a landing net from the bank may cause damage.

Just a thought :confused:

[jim doyle]

I think it,s about confidence, as I said you dictate to the fish not vice versa. I see far to many people who are frightened to put a bend in their rods, play a fish quickly and it will recover quickly. Try useing softer through actioned rods, you can put imense power into the fight and not pull the hook out. Fly rods are usualy lighter than most rods and we used to build tench rods on fly rod blanks, and I know of one near double figure tench from Kent that was landed on one. Johnsons finger lake we called it.

[Dick Dastardly]

Totally agree with Jims comments re lighter rods and the way they work in this situation.

 

Thats Jim G and Jim D!

 

[ 29. July 2005, 10:55 AM: Message edited by: BUDGIE ]

[barblesss]

The trouble is most anglers don't understand the 'physics' when playinghooking a fish.

That's why you see all these Carp anglers with 3IB TC rods fishing at close range .....

....*Clueless*