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#1 singy

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 02:50 PM

I wonder if you can help with a little question. I have permission to catch and keep as many roach and rudd from one of my syndicate lakes for use as pike baits (place is over run with them) However the majority have black spot. Would killing and freezing the baits destroy the parasite or would I run the risk of introducing it to other waters? And what about other parasites/diseases that aren't as obvious?
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#2 Russell Fitzpatrick

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 04:18 PM

i would be wary mate,consult aan aquariam specialist or a experienced piker they may know more about this,i buy my coarse deads bit more money i know but theres less risk.
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 04:22 PM

i think you'll find that moving fish from fishery to fishery is illegal, if not dangerous due to various viruses and dodgy diseases.

proceed with caution.
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 04:29 PM

Singy,I dont know for sure mate but despite having collected ,kept and transported live baits/deadbaits for many years I have always erred on the side of caution re diseases.

Ratty,dont be so sure about that mate!Having supplied course fish to bait firms let me tell you that their main concern is price not health certificates.
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 04:33 PM

Chris the fish, by that reckoning all freshwater pike baits you buy in the angling shops would be illegal.
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 04:52 PM

true budgie,very true didnt think about that one,surley if they were that diseased surley ther would have been some outbreaks by now?
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 05:02 PM

Singy by the letter of the law Chris is right.I can tell you what I do and what my views are on the whole issue of live/dead course baits/collecting/keeping/transporting and using.For me it is an integeral part of predator fishing.I can also advise you to the best ways of minimising the chance of any spread of disease or translocation ofd species BUT you have to be aware that it is against the law,as simple as that.In the past I have been taken to task by several people on here over this issue so I will not openly encourage people to do this but if some one has decided to then I would rather give them the benifit of my experience to help them do it properly and as I allready said minimise any chance of problems.If you are not fully aware of all the arguments for and against then I suggest you either try a search on this forum or maybe some one can give you a link to the relevant threads of last year.
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 05:05 PM

Ratty,its that time of year mate so I suppose the whole debate will start up again.

FACT: There has never been a proven case of pike anglers baits (dead or alive) having spread disease.
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 05:45 PM

I think your right Budgie, Carp are not classed as a disease!
(thought I'd beat Peter to that one)!
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 07:44 PM

budgeie, i just want to fish for esox mate, im with you on this one. fact no proven case,it is part and parcel of pikeing.
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