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#1 barry luxton

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 09:32 PM

http://www.fishnewse...cod-quotas.html

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Conservation of cod:

The Commission is still very concerned about the conservation of cod. In the case of cod in the North Sea, eastern Channel and Skagerrak, despite attempts to improve cod conservation since 2002, things took a turn for the worse in 2008, when a greater proportion of the stock was caught than in any year since 1999. What is more, there are not enough older, spawning fish and too few young fish coming into the stock since 2005 (see Figure 3).

Real-time closures and cod-avoidance schemes have not been enough to protect the stock and have had little effect on fishing patterns. Bringing about an improvement in this situation will mean stepping up conservation efforts still further and implementing the cod plan adopted last autumn. This will result in lower levels of fishing effort and therefore in less pressure on cod. TACs will be adapted in each area according to the amounts of cod left in the sea.

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According to the eu the north sea cod caught last year was significant causing a shortage for next year. Wondering how Bertie and the nffo crew are going to swing it and magic up some more quota. Seeing that the eu are looking for less.

Now the eu are saying all the cod advoidance, real time closures etc, are not enough, as confirmed by the rather large amount taken. As bertie and co have previously used the discard card, they can't use that one.

Edited by barry luxton, 16 October 2009 - 09:42 PM.

 Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.

 
New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.
 
Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.
 
Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.
 
new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.
 
Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because  they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are.. 


#2 Leon Roskilly

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 07:32 AM

As bertie and co have previously used the discard card, they can't use that one.



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Posted 17 October 2009 - 08:44 AM

The situation is completely lost. 2006, 2007 and 2008 saw a big increase in numbers of cod. So immediately the commercial fleet were given a 15% quota increase. It didnt take a genious at that time to know it was a stupid thing to do and it doesnt take a genious to say now, that its all thier own fault. Also the slaughter of immature cod off our coast continues.

One Whitby skipper reported during the last week that he lost a 1000 box haul of cod from amongst the herring spawn because he couldnt lift it onto the boat. Not content with that they went and did it for a second time

This will be the same pair team who lost a 400 box haul of codlings on tuesday Glenn.They were warned on the VHF by the Scarborough lads to tow it for no more than an hour.The bloke on watch didn't want to stop the skipper having his breakfast so turned around after an hour and towed back on it,all this fish is feeding on the herring spawn and not hard to find.When they hauled,the net was full,from the cod end right down to the mouth,an estimated 400 boxes of nits/codlings.They tried to get it aboard for 13 hours before cutting the lot away,all dead.I am VERY well informed that fish is being absolutely slaughtered,high grading is common place,get a picture of what you have in your head and treble it,then you might be close.


Then the following day a Scarborough Trawler was ordered back to port for use of small mesh in the herring spawn. Given a slap on the rist he was back to sea the next day.

Whilst your all preoccupied with bloody MCZ,s and the marine Bill the real problem continues unaddressed. Forget the magnificent 7 and politicising sea angling and demand that the focuss is put firmly back where it belongs. Untill the AT deal with things like this they are a completely useless organisation to sea anglers.

Edited by glennk, 17 October 2009 - 08:47 AM.


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Posted 17 October 2009 - 09:43 AM

Whilst your all preoccupied with bloody MCZ,s and the marine Bill the real problem continues unaddressed. Forget the magnificent 7 and politicising sea angling and demand that the focuss is put firmly back where it belongs. Untill the AT deal with things like this they are a completely useless organisation to sea anglers.


Exactly, Glenn. But the representatives we've had up until now would rather concentrate their efforts on things that won't make much of a difference to anything. Bass nursery areas, golden mile, RSA strategy, tope byelaws and the latest, 'victory' of getting shark finning banned locally, ('cos that was a huge problem, wasn't it!), instead of tackling the real issues. I don't know whether RSA could ever make a difference to the things that really matter, but I would rather see all their efforts directed at those issues - and defending sea anglers against all the stupid proposed restrictions that their efforts so far have attacted.
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 06:41 PM

The situation is completely lost. 2006, 2007 and 2008 saw a big increase in numbers of cod. So immediately the commercial fleet were given a 15% quota increase. It didnt take a genious at that time to know it was a stupid thing to do and it doesnt take a genious to say now, that its all thier own fault. Also the slaughter of immature cod off our coast continues.

One Whitby skipper reported during the last week that he lost a 1000 box haul of cod from amongst the herring spawn because he couldnt lift it onto the boat. Not content with that they went and did it for a second time



Untill the AT deal with things like this they are a completely useless organisation to sea anglers.


And just how do you propose the AT deal with the spread of bull $**te?
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 09:27 PM

And just how do you propose the AT deal with the spread of bull $**te?


Surely that's more a concern for the NFFO, given the present bad press for industrial fishing fleets, their methods and recent figures for fish stocks in the N E Atlantic/N Sea?

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Edited by H.A., 19 October 2009 - 09:28 PM.


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Posted 19 October 2009 - 09:49 PM

Surely that's more a concern for the NFFO, given the present bad press for industrial fishing fleets, their methods and recent figures for fish stocks in the N E Atlantic/N Sea?

B)


Hello Ha

I was referring to the Whitby pub talk.

What bad press and recent figures are you referring to?
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 07:43 PM

The situation is completely lost. 2006, 2007 and 2008 saw a big increase in numbers of cod. So immediately the commercial fleet were given a 15% quota increase. It didnt take a genious at that time to know it was a stupid thing to do and it doesnt take a genious to say now, that its all thier own fault. Also the slaughter of immature cod off our coast continues.

One Whitby skipper reported during the last week that he lost a 1000 box haul of cod from amongst the herring spawn because he couldnt lift it onto the boat. Not content with that they went and did it for a second time



Then the following day a Scarborough Trawler was ordered back to port for use of small mesh in the herring spawn. Given a slap on the rist he was back to sea the next day.

Whilst your all preoccupied with bloody MCZ,s and the marine Bill the real problem continues unaddressed. Forget the magnificent 7 and politicising sea angling and demand that the focuss is put firmly back where it belongs. Untill the AT deal with things like this they are a completely useless organisation to sea anglers.

You continuingly tell people that all you want, is to be left alone so that you can practice your god given right to fish in peace, something that you say has been handed down to you through generations of anglers before you. Very good point and I can understand your views totally. So regardless to things you hear about (fact or fiction or a bit of both), why donít you let your local commercial fisherman (who want the same things that you want) do just the same?

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 10:05 PM

How daft can you get one of the crew on one of the local pair team who himself posted on his facebook that they had lost a 1000 box haul how the hell this slaughter of juvenile fish is still allowed to happen beggers beliefe a box to the north of whitby was closed last month dureing the herring spawn period because of what happened last year as i understand it one of the local skippers has requested to the ministry to close down the area where recently the mass slaughter of juvenile fish has been takeing place he knows the killing of so small and undersized codling cannot now be tollorated these fish grow fast and it would be his winter fishing that man is conservation minded we know everybody has to make a living but its madness this practice must stop.

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Edited by big_cod, 21 October 2009 - 06:18 AM.

http://sea-otter2.co.uk/

Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 10:30 PM

What bad press and recent figures are you referring to?


Wurzel, et al ...

you are not completely non-compos mentis; but you must have seen 'some signs'.


Perhaps I should have told you to watch More4 tonight and see 'End of the Line' over and over!!!!


Blue Fins
Yellowfins
Hake
Halibut
Atlantic Salmon
Herring
Sturgeon
Nephrops
Soles
Plaice

... blah, blah .....

Newfoundlanders were 40k unemployed in '92 because of overfishing (doesn't matter by whom!).

Senagalese fishermen are swarming to Europe because their 3 mile limit has been invaded by Spaniards and Frenchies.

You lot cannot deny the lack of soles and plaice off Suffolk/Essex beaches.
Even with your 'friendly' leetle tangles/gillers and trammels, eh?

Look, mate, don't ask ME to comment on 'bad press' for industrialised fishing.

Keep up to speed, OK?

The scrappage fund should apply to all registered fishing boats; get a nice taxi and a proper job.

<_<

And stop stirring up yer bottom!

Edited by H.A., 20 October 2009 - 10:34 PM.