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Angling Trust Calls For Cull Of Otters Eating Too Much Fish


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Yeah, and apparently, cos we iz fik anglurs we dunt now tha diffrince bewtean an otta an a mink!

 

 

 

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Re: Angling trust calls for otter cull

Could the problem be Mink not Otter? I wouldn't rely on any member of the angling fraternity to tell the difference.

I'm not sure he hasn't got a point though.

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I'm not sure he hasn't got a point though.

 

Cors we no the difurence

 

 

Eres a mink.

 

 

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and eres a water otter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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eezy innit!

 

 

John.

Angling is more than just catching fish, if it wasn't it would just be called 'catching'......... John

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Most stillwater fishing is now so detatched from nature I wouldn't rely on your average fisherchap to be able to tell the difference between a mink and a hedgehog :rolleyes:

And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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Most stillwater fishing is now so detatched from nature I wouldn't rely on your average fisherchap to be able to tell the difference between a mink and a hedgehog :rolleyes:

 

So what you're saying is that most people that go fishing aren't lovers of the countryside or open air - they're carp catching machines programmed to arrive at a lake, bombard it with 10 kilos of bait, catch as many carp as they can and then bugger off home?

I do beg to differ yo some extent. I think most 'anglers' partake in the pastime because they enjoy being outside and they enjoy the wonders of nature. You can't be an angler and not enjoy either because the two come hand in hand.

Sure there are loads of commercial stillwaters out there, where it's easy to drive down the gravel driveway, park up and have a short walk to your swim around a tarmac path - but there are still plenty of wild birds and animals around these lakes.

Then of course there is the other end of the scale - the syndicate and club waters. These tend to be older lakes and are often overgrown and brimming with wildlife. The guys that fish these types of lake are very much at one with nature - it's impossible not to be.

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So what you're saying is that most people that go fishing aren't lovers of the countryside or open air - they're carp catching machines programmed to arrive at a lake, bombard it with 10 kilos of bait, catch as many carp as they can and then bugger off home?

I do beg to differ yo some extent. I think most 'anglers' partake in the pastime because they enjoy being outside and they enjoy the wonders of nature. You can't be an angler and not enjoy either because the two come hand in hand.

Sure there are loads of commercial stillwaters out there, where it's easy to drive down the gravel driveway, park up and have a short walk to your swim around a tarmac path - but there are still plenty of wild birds and animals around these lakes.

Then of course there is the other end of the scale - the syndicate and club waters. These tend to be older lakes and are often overgrown and brimming with wildlife. The guys that fish these types of lake are very much at one with nature - it's impossible not to be.

I think perhaps the point Anderoo is trying to make andd also what I feel, is that angling has become such a commercial concern now and, with anglers of "legendary" status moaning about predators, that there is a significant number of non-wildlife-savvy people out there who do just want to catch huge carp etc. without having to walk, or be inconvenienced by annoying creatures that eat their bait (from the container), or crap on their camo gear or anything else.

 

You're right, there are still "good" venues with "good" anglers but what's coming across in the "weekly blurb" is that certain named tackle is a must, predators are bad and big fish are to be revered......if you can't catch one you must be a muppet and Maggot Malone will teach you how to do it in 2 pages of sponsored drivel.

 

Unfortunately, with so many things to occupy our time these days learning to identify, name and describe the ecological significance of our native wildlife is becoming a specialist job and not something that most country boys knew 30 or more years ago.

 

Again you're right when you say there's loads of wildlife out there but unfortunately I also believe that you are wrong when you say "You can't be an angler and not enjoy either because the two come hand in hand." Some people just don't give a toss, either because they don't care or they're brain-washed by the "legends" spouting crap :(

Eating wild caught fish is good for my health, reduces food miles and keeps me fit trying to catch them........it's my choice to do it, not yours to stop me!

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Membership of a syndicate is no measure of anything!

 

I don't think that many anglers enjoy nature at all. How much reverence is reserved for anything that shares the angler's lake or river - the ducks, the swans, the mice, even most of the fish! If they're the 'wrong' species. That also applies to the wild flowers, the reedbeds, the snags and iverhanging trees, the weed... you get the picture.

 

I may be putting down a lot of people unnecessarily, in which case I apologise, but all the stillwaters around here are heaving under the pressure of anglers who don't want ANYTHING on 'their' lakes unless it's a carp. Just because a lot of them live in the countryside doesn't mean they appreciate it in its entirety. If they really want immersion in nature, there are hundreds of miles of riverbanks here, bursting with nature. I never see anyone. Access to all that for a whole season can be had for less than the cost of 48 hours at Linear.

 

There aren't many wonders of nature at the local gravel pits, mores the pity. If it isn't beneficial to carp fishing, it is dealt with.

 

This may not be the case everywhere, but it's certainly true here.

And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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Having belonged to two local fishing clubs during the last 5 or 6 years, I've seen enough to convince me that there are a lot of 'anglers' out there who don't give a monkeys for their surroundings or the creatures that live in them. I've seen and heard several times, on different waters, 'anglers', moaning like you wouldn't believe because 7lb plus Tench have taken their bait! The said fish were literally dragged from the water on the very heavy tackle that has been used. The amount of litter, (mainly empty beer cans, portable BBQ's, and heavy line), these 'anglers' leave behind after their all night sessions, is the main reason why I no longer belong to any local clubs. At one water, they even put a skip in permanently in the car park to encourage people not to litter the bank, but they still left it in a **** state.

 

Of course, there's good and bad. I would like to think that most are good. But when I keep reading how 'anglers' want to kill this, that or the other, and the attitudes of intollerance for other water users, it looks as if the scales are beginning to tip the wrong way.

DRUNK DRIVERS WRECK LIVES.

 

Don't drink and drive.

 

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