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#1 Guest_Cliff_*

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Posted 29 February 2000 - 02:04 AM

I'm very much looking forward to resuming hostilities with the carp on my local syndicate water when it opens next week, but remember last year with a sense of frustation due to the no. of fish I lost due to knots giving way on my rigs. Can anyone recommend a knot that will stand up to the rigours of landing decent sized carp (20lb+)and how do I tie it???? I've heard a grinner mentioned on tight lines, but again I don't know how to tie it - can anyone help.

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Posted 29 February 2000 - 04:11 AM

Cliff, I always find that a '5 turn grinner' knot
does the business.
Put it this way if I was going absailing
the grinner would be my first choice!
I would send you a picture but my scanners knackered.
But you should be able to find a picture of it
in any decent mag or book.

May your net stay wet.


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Posted 29 February 2000 - 04:21 AM

I found an example on the web you might like to look at : http://www.fishingpa...m/knots/uni.htm

This uses the american name for the grinner - the uni knot.

I learnt this knot the first time I bought a packet of Drennan Super Specialist hooks cos they'd kindly printed it on the back of the packet, and I can honestly say that in all the years I've been using it all over the world I have never ever had one come undone. It pays to make sure you wet the line well before pulling it tight though else it can weaken the line a little, but then that's probably true of all knots. These days I always add a touch of superglue as well, just to make sure.

I've also found that this knot works quite well with braids, although you have to tie it with a double thickness. This can be a little messy as you finish up with a lot of ends once you've trimmed it back, but once again a little dab of superglue tends to do the trick.

Get knotted

David Priddy

ps I have seen some people pass the line through the eye twice when fishing for really hard fighting fish, but I've not tried it myself. Thought I'd mention it none-the-less.

[This message has been edited by davidP (edited 28 February 2000).]

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Posted 29 February 2000 - 06:00 AM

Although aimed at sea fishermen in particular, you'll aslo find a few here:
Tight Knots,


Elton Murphy
Anglers' Net

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Posted 02 March 2000 - 03:36 AM

On the general subject of knots, I've recently been adding to my (modest) angling skills by having a first crack at hair-rigged baits for carp, using a knotless knot. At first sight it looks as though that knot should just fall apart, but it doesn't- at least not with the vast pressure of the 3lb carp that put it to the test Posted Image.
I've also been using a hook-tyer to make up my own hook lenghts for general use. Why am I bothering? Why wouldn't a knotless knot work for a size 20? The only difference I can see is the presence or otherwise of the hair, which doesn't appear to contribute to the structure of the knot.

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Posted 02 March 2000 - 04:31 AM

I use a palomar for tying on eyed hooks and swivels etc. The palomar works equally well on nylon and braid and I find it easier to tie than the grinner and much more secure than the conventional half blood knot (tucked or otherwise). Incidentally the latter are called clinch and improved clinch knots respectively by the Americans. I can't draw at all but no doubt the sites mentioned will have diagrams of the Palomar.

Wingham Fisheries

#7 Guest_Cliff_*

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Posted 04 March 2000 - 01:08 AM

Many thanks for the very useful feedback from all, I'll now start practicing the knots detailed at the web links suggested.
Hopefully I will oneday have a usefull response to one of the topics raised by you guys - till then I'll just monitor the varied topics raised.