Firstly, the nit picking over if the viaduct goes through or over the lakes and how badly they will be affected? It will pass over or through the middle of Pit2, it will go over or through part of Savay, it will go over or through near enough the middle of Korda and pass very close to several other well known Colne Valley lakes and the Long Pond will probably be filled in.
I take it that you can both read maps? Look at the map supplied by HS2 on the link provided.
Looked? Good, no arguement or splitting hairs there then!!
As I said in an earlier post, the logistics involved and the amount of destruction caused by the plant required for a project of this magnitude are massive and will take years to build and even longer for the area to recover, if ever, the peace and quiet will never return, not with trains thundering across every four minutes at up to 200 mph with a noise approaching a 100 DB. The disruption to the area over several years during construction dosen't bear thinking about
One of you mentioned that I should worry about SSSI's and homes, I am, there are several SSSI's within the valley, HS2 is due to smash through at least one as well as more further up the line, see link.
http://www.hertswild...fe/High Speed 2
Of the four lakes within the SSSI, Broadwater Lake is by far the biggest at around 80 hectares and is one of the largest expanses of open water in the Colne Valley. It supports a number of wooded islands. The other lakes are Harefield Moor, Korda Lake and the Long Pond. The nature reserve includes Korda, Long Pond, the River Colne and the western side of Broadwater Lake. Around the pits are remnants of the original alluvial grasslands and valley alderwoods. These grade into beech and hornbeam woodland and mixed scrub on the western slopes.
The Mid-Colne Valley SSSI has considerable ornithological importance, particularly for the diversity of breeding wetland birds and for the numbers of wintering waterbirds. The principal area of interest is Broadwater Lake which supports nationally important numbers of both wintering and summer moulting waterbirds. The smaller Korda Lake, Long Pond and River Colne all provide an important supporting role to the main lake.
Wintering birds include Great Crested Grebe, Cormorant, Gadwall, Shoveler, Tufted Duck, Pochard, Wigeon, Teal, Goldeneye, Smew, Ruddy Duck and Coot. The first five species have been present above the level of national importance in recent years, while Gadwall have also exceeded the level of international significance.
Breeding birds include Coot, Greylag Goose, Little Ringed Plover, Kingfisher, Mute Swan, Grey Heron, Egyptian Goose and Tufted Duck. Gadwall and Shoveler occasionally breed. A colony of Cormorants has also become established on the islands of Broadwater Lake. The lake also supports nationally important moult gatherings of Tufted Duck. Over 500 were recorded in the summer of 1990 but counts in recent years have been lower.
Since excavation there has been a natural colonisation by typical wetland plants and animals. The River Colne is the most natural feature of the site. It still retains a meandering channel in parts with some pools and riffles. The banks of the gravel pits, although of relatively recent origin, support a variety of willows and fen plants such as Water-plantain, Yellow Iris and Gipsywort. In sheltered areas, where the banks are gently shelving, more extensive stands of tall swamp vegetation occur, comprising mainly Common Reed and Reedmace.
The River Colne is known to be important for bats, with large numbers of Daubentons feeding along the river, the wildlife is not restricted to the conservation areas, there are large colonies of Slowworms and Grass Snakes on the existing railway embankment and other parts of the proposed route.
The viaduct will also pass close to the large South Harefield housing estate and Harfield Marina, many of the 100 or so boats are residential, the small hamlet of West Hyde will be affected, their peace and quite during construction and opperation will be gone.
You also talked about the success of HS1. Is that the same HS1 that went over budget, bust and had to be bailed out by the government and hasn't lived up to it's predicted traffic levels? The same HS1 that was flogged off at a tremendous loss to the British tax payer?
The facts you keep mentioning are produced by either the government or HS2, you seem to think that their some sort of Ten Commandments written in stone by god, I treat anything written by goverments when their trying to flog me something as a good idea with a huge pinch of salt and scepticism, they will only tell you what they think you want to hear.
At present the budget for this waste of money has been quoted at anything between £17.5 - £30 billion, what's to say this project won't go over that? The new Wembley stadium went hugely over budget, so did the Olympics 2012 site, also the Dome and HS1.
The general disruption caused to West London and the A40 corridoor into and out London will be monumental and cause more problems to business and transport than it's worth, it's taken the Chiltern line over a year to build and install one new bridge at the entrance to the West Waste site at South Ruislip, how much longer and how much delay and cost to business will be caused through road closures whilst constructing many bridges along the proposed route into and out of London including the imfamous A40-A406 Gyratory junction?
All that Iv'e written about will not only happen in the Colne Valley and the route out of London but many times over along the proposed 120 mile route, and more if it's ever going to get any further than Birmingham. Still think it's worth it? Don't bother answering, I already know the answer.
Sorry fella's but there's no way your going to convince me (and many, many others) that this idea is valid on business, green or value for money issues and that's a FACT.
Edited by Stop HS2, 24 April 2011 - 04:24 PM.