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#11 Liam7

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 10:05 AM

Hello mate, Hopefully this advise will be helpful. I tend to use a free running method feeder tied to a swivel with a bead to stop the shock, The hooklink when using a method feeder needs to be as short as possible say 3inches but with a cage feeder should be alot longer. You can use it either way, with a quiver tip you want it at a 45 degree angle so you can detect drop backs aswell. I only tend to use bait runner and buzzers if i'm either night fishing or using two rods. I tend to find the best way to do it is with a hair rig, but a layer of groundbait on your feeder, then push your hook and hook bait in and then put some more groundbait around it.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 03:26 PM

All,

Once again, the "Great Glossary" fails me. There is no definition for "method feeder", "cage feeder" or "feeder".

What are the "differences" between the two specific devices and the general term "feeder"? I'm afraid we don't distinguish as exact as you may??

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 03:46 PM

Phone- Method feeder is a semi fixed feeder in which you mould pellets or groundbait to and place your baited hook inside so that when it breaks down the hookbait is in amongst a pile of feed, normally used in conjunction with short hooklengths and hair rigged baits such as corn, meat, pellets or small boilies. A cage feeder too is a cage style mesh in which you can also put groundbait or pellets. A feeder is just a replacement for a weight (as in used when legering) and holds bait to attract fish to your hookbait in one way or another.

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In short-

1- YES
2- YES although not essential
3- YES for best results, the fish hooks itself on the weight of the feeeder
4- UP TO YOU a bite alarm set up works but on commercials quivertip rods are more common
5- 30 CM Max, most use 3-10 inches
6- Probably to trap the line so although the rig is free running and safe if a fish breaks it, the rubber band gives a little resistance and so acts as a self hooking mechanism


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Posted 03 September 2011 - 04:01 PM

Dave,

Ahhh !

A "packbait" is around the lead. It breaks down into a pile. That would be a "method feeder" since it is around the lead.

A "packbait" that is around the bait (overlay) and also serves as "casting weight" and breaks down into a pile when freelining, that would be a "feeder"

A device aquired from Euro style fishing that is oval shaped weighted and slotted device and receives stuffed "groundbait" is a "cage feeder".

"Cage feeders" do not require as exact a formula for breakers and binders of the groundbait they "hold in" the contents. (Used with or without a lead).

Right?

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 04:48 PM

Phone,

A "packbait" is around the lead. It breaks down into a pile. That would be a "method feeder" since it is around the lead.

Yes

A "packbait" that is around the bait (overlay) and also serves as "casting weight" and breaks down into a pile when freelining, that would be a "feeder"

Bit confused here, a feeder is a general term for something that acts as a weight and releases bait to attract fish, but i think thats what you mean by 'around the bait' as the feeders bait is around the hookbait, yes

A device aquired from Euro style fishing that is oval shaped weighted and slotted device and receives stuffed "groundbait" is a "cage feeder".

Yes, groundbait is commonly used but other substances like softened pellets, bread mash etc can be used

"Cage feeders" do not require as exact a formula for breakers and binders of the groundbait they "hold in" the contents. (Used with or without a lead).

Most feeders are used instead of a lead, some even have added weight to them or strips of lead but it is uncommon over here to use a feeder and a weight also. No it doesn't have to be so accurate with how you make up your cage feeder mix, but you just have to bear in mind if you make it too try, your bait will come out in the upper layers of the water and not around you hookbait on the bottom, too wet and it becomes sticky and stodgy and doesn't come out very well at all and can go more like a paste. Most people make their cage feeder groundbait to the same consistency they would normally. The only time people usually muck around with consistency is depending on how deep a water you were fishing, eg you wouldn't use a fairly dry mix on a 30 foot deep gravel pit but you might on a 4 foot pond.

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Edited by davedave, 03 September 2011 - 04:48 PM.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 01:06 PM

Wow 25,992 :o and 14 replies, must be a popular topic for reading, B)

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 02:03 PM

Amdrew.

I saw that! I don't believe it - do you?

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 03:49 PM

well since 2004 i think it would certainly rack up quite a lot of views. type in google "method feeder advice" and it comes up the first search result. type "method feeder fishing" and it comes up 6th

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 12:21 AM

Andy,

Ohh 'ell, of course you are right. I am wrong. Just assumed it was a new offering on AN.

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 05:46 AM

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