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Guest 'eelfisher'

Dear Fisherking...and all the posters on this thread......

This is why Mike Heylin is so admired by myself and many more out there.....simply brilliant Mike....thanks and thanks again, on behalf of angling.

Yours With Respect....

Steve.

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Guest Alan Roe

I recieved this today......

Dear Mr Roe

 

Thank you for your email of May 11th.

 

We were sorry to read that you question Wendy Turner-Webster's suitability

as a presenter of the programme PET RESCUE.

 

We do feel that we have clearly stated Channel 4's position and that we have

done our best to assist you. Therefore, we regret that we are unable to

enter into any further correspondence on this subject.

 

If you continue to feel you have unresolved issues arising from your

complaint, we suggest that you address them to the ITC, the body that

licenses and regulates commercially funded television services in the UK.

Their address is:

 

Independent Television Commission

33 Foley Street

London W1P 7LB

 

Again, we do thank you for taking the time to write to us.

 

Yours sincerely

 

LINDA BRIANT

VIEWER ENQUIRIES MANAGER

 

They really don't want to discuss this issue do they!!!!

The good news is that the ITC have an on line complaints form so we dont have to go to the trouble of getting stamps and going to the post box!!

Here we go folks http://www.itc.org.uk/contact/prog_complaint_form.asp.

Please use this facillity to make our feelings known!!

Cheers

Alan

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Guest Alan Roe

If its any help to the non letter writers this is what I sent to the ITC.

 

Dear Sir/Madam.

I wish to express the gravest concerns about the presenter of this programme. Recently she wrote an open letter to the Duke of Kent on behalf of the animal rights extremist group PETA demanding that the scouts stop the angling proficiency badge.I am aware that Ms Turner was not expressing the view of Channel 4 or indeed Pet Rescue I have no problems with either the Channel or indeed the programme.

My area of expresssed concern is that Ms Turner was acting on behalf of Peta regardless of any membership status when she sent the letter to the Duke of Kent naturally cc'd to the press!!

I am expressing the gravest doubts about a person who is prepared to use public persona to promote the views of this group who are quite open about their support for the use of violence in the furtherance of their cause.

You may recall that a 6 year old child was recently injured as a result of a mail bomb sent by an 'animal rights' activist.

I regard her views on angling as misguided as they appear to be uninformed but I do not deny her the right to hold such views.

Equally one has to consider that she has upset untold numbers of people in trying to inflict her views on the lives of others.

However I must bring into question her suitability to present a programme on animal welfare when the group she has so publicly endorsed is opposed to any form of human / animal interaction particularly as pets.

I along with countless others have attempted to make our views known to the Channel 4 management about this issue through their forums however any thread critical of the actions of their presenter were deleted.

Replies to E-mails sent to them also give a strong impression that they are not willing to look at this subject.

Thus I feel that Channel4 is trying to block any views that do not coincide with theirs.

In view of the danger that these extremist groups present there is a significant public interest factor that needs to be taken into account.

Yours

Sincerely

M. A. Roe.

 

Feel free to use whatever parts suit you best

Cheers

Alan

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Guest waterman1013

Alan and all

 

They have not even bothered to alter the wording of the replies they are sending out today.. I think I may try a different approach. I'll let you know how I get on.

 

Dear Mr Heylin

 

Thank you for your email of May 11th.

 

We were sorry to read that you are unhappy with our previous response to

your comments concerning Wendy Turner-Webster and PET RESCUE.

 

We do feel that we have clearly stated Channel 4's position and that we have

done our best to assist you. Therefore, we regret that we are unable to

enter into any further correspondence on this subject.

 

If you continue to feel you have unresolved issues arising from your

complaint, we suggest that you address them to the ITC, the body that

licenses and regulates commercially funded television services in the UK.

Their address is:

 

Independent Television Commission

33 Foley Street

London W1P 7LB

 

Again, we do thank you for taking the time to write to us.

 

Yours sincerely

 

LINDA BRIANT

VIEWER ENQUIRIES MANAGER

 

I really do object to writing to one person and having another step into the breach and respond. Linda Briant is probably a very nioce person but I did not write to her and I would still like a response from John Daniels.

 

Mike

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Guest Fatboy

I've been talking with a few friends and have an idea...

 

Private Eye may be able to get a bit of mileage out of this. Admittedly, they do seem to claim the kudos for themselves, but in the interests of angling

I'd suggest that this would be a small price to pay, and they do have a reputation for

not letting go once they've sunk their teeth in to their chosen target.

 

That they also have a reputation for picking

up large libel bills is incidental!!!!!

 

As a matter of interest, I am trying to find out about the legal position of inviting comment about programming and actively censoring the inconvenient postings. My barrister friend is in the USA at present,

but it may be worth asking the IBA to

examine the goings on at Channel 4's web site. I don't have much enthusiasm for the people who will only report the positive side of life. As broadcasters, they have a

responsibility to ensure that what is reported is fair and balanced. Or is WTW

trying to emulate her sister by making a virtue of being crass?

 

Illegitimi non carborundum.

Alan

 

 

 

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Guest Alan Roe

Alan Be encouraged in approaching Private Eye

with the story and see if they will take it on.

 

I think the signature you are looking for is more corrrectly put thus

Nil Desperandum Illigitibus carborundum

Oh well Tempus Fugit

Alan

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Guest DerwentBob

I think Private Eye would just about set the right tone for dealing with people like WTW, unashamed ridicule. I look forward to seeing what they can make out of this.

 

PS I think you mean "ne te confundit illegitimi" if I remember my Latin. Another useful phrase would be "futue te ipsum" which I am reliably informed means F.O. and can be safely shouted at the majority of Antis in the knowledge that they will not have a clue... biggrin.gif

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Guest Fatboy
Originally posted by Alan Roe:

I think the signature you are looking for is more corrrectly put thus

Nil Desperandum Illigitibus carborundum

Oh well Tempus Fugit

Alan

 

 

Perhaps, I shouldn't try and wax eloquent!

I think I'd better suggest 'Semper in excreta, solem alta variat' - (Always in the s**t, only the depth varies!)

 

I'll keep you posted on the outcome of my approaches to Private Eye.

Alan.

 

 

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Thank you for your complaint, which is now being considered.

What will happen to your complaint?

Provided your complaint is about a specific programme or advertisement, and

raises an issue of violence, sexual conduct or taste and decency, then the

Commission will be able consider it.

If the Commission decides that it is inappropriate to proceed further with

your complaint you will receive a personal letter explaining the reasons for

the decision. Otherwise, the Commission will send a copy of your complaint

to the broadcaster who will be required to supply a recording which the

Commission will review. A written statement responding to the points you

raise may also be required. If the Commission agrees with your complaint it

will be upheld.

A copy of the decision will be sent to you and the broadcaster before

publication in a monthly bulletin which is widely distributed to all

broadcasters, the press and other interested parties. This bulletin

provides guidance on acceptable limits to broadcasters. Findings which

include a broadcaster's statement are also published on the Commission's

website.

Your name, address and personal details will not be included in any public

information.

How long will the Commission take to consider your complaint?

The most complex cases may take up to 20 weeks, although many cases are

completed far more quickly.

How does the Commission assess what is and what is not acceptable?

The Commission's code of guidance makes the distinction between attitudes to

matters of taste, which, like fashion, can change over time and decency

which reflects more enduring views. The Commission has an extensive

research programme that monitors people's attitudes to issues within its

remit. It is an essential tool for all Commissioners who have to consider

issues that affect 22 million households.

In reaching a decision on your complaint, the Commission will take into

account its code of guidance and research into public attitudes, alongside

the material complained of, its context and scheduling and likely audience

expectations.

Which broadcasters fall within the Commission's remit?

All broadcasting services within the UK, including radio and television,

satellite, cable and terrestrial, text and now digital services are within

our remit. Every broadcaster and all broadcasting regulators must reflect

the Commission's codes in their own day to day codes and guidelines.

The Commission and its powers

The Commission is the independent statutory body for standards and fairness

in UK broadcasting. It conducts research, considers audience complaints and

issues guidance.

The Commission can only consider complaints about material which has been

broadcast. It cannot censor, ban or preview material or fine broadcasters.

In exceptional circumstances, the Commission may require the broadcaster to

publish summaries of 'upheld' decisions on television or radio and/or in a

newspaper or magazine.

Please retain this letter for future reference. For further information

about the Commission please see www.bsc.org.uk.

this is the bsc response to my complaint about c4 deleting all our threads on their forum.

seems like they dont care either

 

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