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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:16 AM

Rabbit, hurry up then...and fukc off to twitter... :drunk:


Who's rabbit and why are obsessed with him? :huh:

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:35 AM

I'm sure someone else has already posted similar but I'm buggered if I'm reading the whole lot to make sure.

If I may, I want to make an analogy... No? Tough. I'm doing it anyway.
Cast your minds back to the late 60's, early 70's. way before my time btw, but i hear that there was a massive uproar over a certain fish called a Zander...
Yadda yadda, destruction, waffle snort, end of days and so on.

It all balanced out in the end.

Now, extrapolate breeding habits of Otters vs Zander and you will see that Zander are somewhat more prolific and so the boom/stabilise cycle was relatively short, maybe 10 years in 'most' waters.
The Otters will stabilise in numbers... eventually. It may take nearly 30 years but it'll all balance out in the end.
Yes, there may be short term issues in some areas, but stocks will recover.
I'm a 'half full' kind of guy I guess...

And I'll be there, 30 years later, fishing happily (and catching), watching Otter Kittens play, while most of you haters will be feeding my bait... :P

It's the kind of thought that keeps me happy...

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:14 AM

That must (is) very annoying when you need to fire off a quick retort and by the time it appears the point you are making was yesterdays news :D

Is it any wonder people are leaving forums such as this for Twitter?

And can you imagine the likes of you lot being limited to one liners :D What would the likes of you Budgie, Anderloo, Worms et all do to fill there days .Fish? :o


We'd manage, here's an example:

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:12 AM

And I'll be there, 30 years later, fishing happily (and catching), watching Otter Kittens play, while most of you haters will be feeding my bait... :P



I agree with your post except for this point as most of the knee jerk otter haters Ive came across are younger than my self!
And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 11:13 AM

Sorry you have either not read my post properly or deliberately avoid the facts

Its the Waveney I am quoting the environment agency survey from, the waveney I am talking of and the waveney has never been stocked.

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My apologies. Not knowing the rivers very well I googled Billingford and got Billingford Rehabilitation Project and a number of other positive connections. It would appear that there is a Billingford on the Wensum as well!

I did read your post properly and I didn't deliberately avoid the facts...you didn't mention the River Waveney!

Anyway, I read this EDP report and it seems that some people are having a good time!

There have been plenty of nice roach on red maggots from the Beccles area with the Quay still capable of giving its best form one day and a couple later dropping down as the shoals persistently run in and out of the river’s main flow. When they do settle down it is really healthy skimmers around the 14oz mark that give the biggest bags, but alongside have been some quality roach.

Feeder fishing in the flow of the River near to the Yacht station has been good, too, with “proper” bream taking bigger baits and averaging around 6lb. Georgie Wells, from Fressingfield, knocked out 21 of these in his sitting as the tide rose and even kept them through the change. These shoals are still concentrated and reluctant to spread themselves – others who sat more than 30 yards away had just one or two bream, but their consolation were the weighty perch who took the worms. Even 20lb of these weighing up to the pound and a half were welcome to the net.

Around Bungay the bronze maggot appeared to be best for roach of 2oz-3oz on a variety of float presentations.

Harleston Club official Nigel Poll reports the continued re-establishment of the dace in streamier sections, with Kessingland veteran Colin Davey taking a 10oz specimen from the Shotford Bridge area, where 40 years ago the irascible Peter Dade weighed one in of 14ozs – at that time a record nudger.

Further upstream at Billingford the summer EA electro fishing survey showed not one dace, roach or chub present, and a 46pc decline in fish stocks – a fall by nearly a half – over five sampled sites down to just below Wainford Maltings Bungay.


As with many East Anglian rivers it would appear that the Waveney also has silting problems. The only otter 'problems' on the Waveney I found were these!
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 11:19 AM

My apologies. Not knowing the rivers very well I googled Billingford and got Billingford Rehabilitation Project and a number of other positive connections. It would appear that there is a Billingford on the Wensum as well!

I did read your post properly and I didn't deliberately avoid the facts...you didn't mention the River Waveney!

Anyway, I read this EDP report and it seems that some people are having a good time!



As with many East Anglian rivers it would appear that the Waveney also has silting problems. The only otter 'problems' on the Waveney I found were these!


trouble is with modern waterway management the "management" tends to concentrate on a "natural" outlook not taking into consideration any river (mostly everything else as well "natural" is very rare in england) that exists has been heavily managed since the bronze age.
the wey where i live looks natural but a 1000 years ago barges took stone up it to Waverley abbey ,its now 4 feet shallower than then :rolleyes:
theres no sign of heaps of soil where the river was dredged to get the depth so it was naturally deeper so i guess modern "management" allows neglect as being mother natures way?
theres little bankside agriculture in the area the soils to poor and even less historically so it cannot be soil being deposited in field run-off so again its down to management ,just above Waverley abbey there is a sluice gate why its there i have no knowledge i think to artificially deepen the section above it but i cannot see the reason why? ,if the river was unobstructed i'm sure it would scour itself deeper once more ,the broads are probably the most unnatural place in the country so obviasly the "natural" theory falls apart very quickly if left to nature

Edited by chesters1, 03 February 2012 - 11:29 AM.

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