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Poll: Pike Course (51 member(s) have cast votes)

As an experienced pike angler would you object to having to attend a "handling/Unhooking" course prior to being able to fish a water for pike?

  1. NO (25 votes [47.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 47.17%

  2. YES (28 votes [52.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 52.83%

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#1 AddictedToScopex

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 05:08 PM

Pretty self explanatory :D

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 07:47 PM

I'd just fish elswhere.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 07:52 PM

I'd just fish elswhere.



Even though it would mean that pike would be handled better by others who didnt know how to?
And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 08:00 PM

Even though it would mean that pike would be handled better by others who didnt know how to?




I could understand it if it was a voluntary type thing for people who needed it but to make it compulsary...no I don't agree with it. We have more than enough rules and regs already and imo we don't need any more...big brother is coming to angling !

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 08:00 PM

This time of year most of the anglers fishing for pike in the fens don't have a club card, don't have a rod licence and don't speak english.

I know it sounds racist but its the truth.

There are lots of small burn't area's about the size of instant barbeques all over the fens espescially the less fished spots but I guess they remain from the warmer months.

So we burden more sensible caring anglers with yet more rules when the vast majority and harmfull ones carry on?.

Most I see don't even have a landing net but if you are going to eat it you don't really care for its welfare.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 08:15 PM

So we burden more sensible caring anglers with yet more rules when the vast majority and harmfull ones carry on?.
John


I agree with John, when ever rules are bought in it only ever seems to effect those who do the right thing anyway. A good idea to offer handling coarses for those who want them but surely it's on our more natural waters that need more protection. Surely clubs and private fisheries keep an eye on members/clients and the worse offenders are taken to task. Just seems like more regulation on anglers but unlikely to target the correct people.

Edited by Dales, 17 January 2012 - 08:17 PM.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 08:20 PM

Pretty self explanatory :D



scopex.

I do agree with how hard it would be to implement but i agree with many that clubs and syndicates can implement it very easily. Then with luck at least when they go on a ticket water and they will at some point know what they are doing. Yes they can be forged or given to somebody but i think the majority would be proud they have it and would have an attitude of you want to put the hard work in you do it. There will always be exceptions like those fishing without a licence.

Like a game licence perhaps there could be a predator licence or to pin point it a bit more those that will be using lures or trebles to fish need to take a course . nothing is impossible if the right people provide and it's not i think the people willing to do it is at the end of the day although through a long chain the buck stops at our prime minister...I am sure if anything puts momey into the treasury he would do it and he can't fail on the morals of it so he is on a winner.
But this could also be the kiss of death too..
Do you want to attract the Antis because you could say well it would be good for the fish but as i have been face to face with Anti's all my life for most its not about cruelty its about the social classes which is why they hunted down fox hunting it was to do with social class and little to do with animal rightsand a very easy target. Its not just down to time money and admin but raising the awareness, popping its head up for the anti's to lob off. Its not the fish many care about it's the Rebel fighting for a cause and their attitude is 'Oh we now can ban it because if they feel the NEED to do it then we can expose it.

Edited by Hawk, 17 January 2012 - 08:29 PM.


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Posted 17 January 2012 - 08:20 PM

I could understand it if it was a voluntary type thing for people who needed it but to make it compulsary...no I don't agree with it. We have more than enough rules and regs already and imo we don't need any more...big brother is coming to angling !


The trouble is, nobody thinks they need it themselves. This kind of scheme (if well-run) ensures that people know what they're doing, especially those who think they are pike gods who are above such things!

On the FAS one I went to, there was a such a guy who kept muttering about waste of time. When it came to his turn to handle the pike he freaked out, lost his nerve and got a very nice gill-rashed hand as a souvenir :D

I really can't understand objections to schemes like that, it simply means that those who do fish for the pike (and the pike themselves) don't have to put up with idiots like that.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 08:21 PM

Just seems like more regulation on anglers but unlikely to target the correct people.


But if everyone has to attend before being allowed to pike fish then surely its targeting everyone?

I agree its a shame that we are even considering such a thing but I certainly wouldnt see it as a "restriction" on fishing? It works very well on the waters that do this. The other issues mentioned are surely simply policing ones?
And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 08:27 PM

But if everyone has to attend before being allowed to pike fish then surely its targeting everyone?


Exactly.

How many annoyed stories have we heard on here alone about people having to remove old traces from pike? And when a proposal is put forward that would help prevent that kind of mistreatment, people get all funny about it!
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music