102 replies to this topic

[andy_youngs]

drop it ain't worth the hassel.

Nope, I don't choose to do that Barry. I want to fight it. Don't worry, I'll keep you informed. But I'm mightily p*****d off at the moment.

[barry luxton]

Nope, I don't choose to do that Barry. I want to fight it. Don't worry, I'll keep you informed. But I'm mightily p*****d off at the moment.

What you want to acheive, money? let back in? satisfaction? Na, stay on here and get your word across that canoe access is an equal right as to any other river user. You will be more respected than if you choose the other route, win or loose. my opinion btw.

[ayjay]

No will do.
This is a live dispute.

It's only when you've eventually grown out of the "angry young man" phase, that you''ll realise that both Barry and I are correct.

We've all been there, it doesn't work - chill out, move on, and devote your time and energy to something more rewarding.

[andy_youngs]

What you want to acheive, money? let back in? satisfaction? Na, stay on here and get your word across that canoe access is an equal right as to any other river user. You will be more respected than if you choose the other route, win or loose. my opinion btw.

I don't want money. And I don't want to be let back in to anything. All I want is to be able to paddle down my local river without some fascist thug jumping out and accosting me.

And if that does happen, then I want the law to back me up and inform the accoster that he is engaged in antisocial behaviour.

It ain't happening at the moment, hence my unhappiness.

[andy_youngs]

It's only when you've eventually grown out of the "angry young man" phase, that you''ll realise that both Barry and I are correct.

We've all been there, it doesn't work - chill out, move on, and devote your time and energy to something more rewarding.

I agree, we've all been there. And sometimes you need to draw a line in the sand. I choose to devote my time and energy to this cause, because I believe a massive injustice is being perpetrated. The public is being lied to.

I grew out of the angry young man phase many years ago. I'm now in the angry old man phase.

[Steve Walker]

It's a private website, it's their ball and they've taken it in.

If we had an anti-angling animal rights activist joining AN to put his views across, would it be unreasonable of Elton to ban him?

[andy_youngs]

If we had an anti-angling animal rights activist joining AN to put his views across, would it be unreasonable of Elton to ban him?

Yes, it would. It would be akin to banning someone from a pub because you didn't like the colour of his jacket.

As long as the anti-angling animal rights activist doesn't ram it down it down your throat in an inflammitory way, then he's allowed to post, and he's allowed to buy you a pint of beer, and you are allowed to talk to him. Because every pub is a parliament.

Edited by andy_youngs, 10 March 2012 - 01:27 AM.

[Phone]

andy,

Well, I see your point. Our biytch was inculcated in the rallying cry of the American Revolution: No Taxation Without Representation. What were you paying to voice an opinion on this other site. Makes perfect sense if you paid by the word or letter.

As for your post above this one. You're kidding right? Do you consider every forum on the internet "public"? Does the owner have any "rights" of censorship?

You say "ram"? You don't seem to have much wiggle room in your opinion. What's that all about?

Phone

[andy_youngs]

What were you paying to voice an opinion on this other site. Makes perfect sense if you paid by the word or letter.

As for your post above this one. You're kidding right? Do you consider every forum on the internet "public"? Does the owner have any "rights" of censorship?
Phone

I didn't pay a penny. And I also wasn't kidding in the post above this one. The owner has rights to moderate abusive posts. But he doesn't have the right to set up a public forum, harvest the advertising revenue, and then ban people from the forum just because they hold views that he happens to disagree with.

The fishing magic forum was quite happy to publish my article about mahseer fishing on the Karnali River in Nepal a few years ago, and benefit from the advertising revenue that flowed from that.

They received that benefit for free. I didn't charge them for my input.

All I'm after is justice ....

[cleeclive]

I didn't pay a penny. And I also wasn't kidding in the post above this one. The owner has rights to moderate abusive posts. But he doesn't have the right to set up a public forum, harvest the advertising revenue, and then ban people from the forum just because they hold views that he happens to disagree with.

The fishing magic forum was quite happy to publish my article about mahseer fishing on the Karnali River in Nepal a few years ago, and benefit from the advertising revenue that flowed from that.

They received that benefit for free. I didn't charge them for my input.

All I'm after is justice ....

Ummm, an interesting one, there is a big difference between angry young man and angry old man and I think that "Victor Meldrew" comes to mind with the latter, its kind of anger with the wisdom to realise that sometimes you are on a hiding to nothing but it is satisfying to be Victor Meldrew for an hour and irritate the wife a bit more with your moaning. Life is full of injustice but at least you have had a sympathetic hearing in this site.
It seems to be a very complex legal issue paddling in fresh water, I spent 20 years messing about eel fishing , mostly poaching and never really had any hassle, but it has changed, Joe public are now a lot more environmentally aware and tend to report anything they see to the environment agency. It has taken the fun out of poaching, so I stopped around 18 years ago.