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You say "ram"? You don't seem to have much wiggle room in your opinion. What's that all about?

 

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You're right, I don't have much wiggle room. Nobody campaigning for canoe access rights in England and Wales has any wiggle room. We've been backed into a corner by the Angling Trust.

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It has taken the fun out of poaching, so I stopped around 18 years ago.

I utterly refute the assertion that I bear any resemblance to Victor Meldrew. And why are you associating canoeing with poaching? This doesn't help (for heavens sake)

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Andy - I'm going to go against the majority on here and say that if you want to do this (contest the FM ban) as a hobby, go for it. The cost should not be too great and it can keep you busy in your spare time for months or possibly for years.

" My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!" - Harry Truman, 33rd US President

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Take the advice Andy and keep on the canoe access trail. Put the access topic back on or start another. Come on do some good. :hug:

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Andy - I'm going to go against the majority on here and say that if you want to do this (contest the FM ban) as a hobby, go for it. The cost should not be too great and it can keep you busy in your spare time for months or possibly for years.

Why thank you Newt. Coming from the first 'mod' that I ever crossed swords with that really means something. Don't worry, I intend to keep punching away at this bag for a few more years yet.

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There is no right to post on someone else's forum, just as there's no right to be published in someone else's newspaper. If the forum owner thinks a poster is harming business by annoying other users or if he simply doesn't like him, he's well within his rights to ban him. If you want freedom of expression on the web, somebody else's forum is not the place to find it.

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"There is no right to post on someone else's forum, just as there's no right to be published in someone else's newspaper. If the forum owner thinks a poster is harming business by annoying other users or if he simply doesn't like him, he's well within his rights to ban him. If you want freedom of expression on the web, somebody else's forum is not the place to find it."

What a load of bullshit. It is to the shame of the FM forum that a citizen should feel obliged to seek redress on the AN forum.

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andy,

 

I agree with Steve. At least in the "land of the free and the home of the brave" that's true.

 

You sure you don't have such an obsession that you are not, in some ways, deprived of normal mental clarity or sound judgment on this topic. The last folks I knew who wanted to save their canoes without compromise got the chit kicked out of them in our Cowboy and Indian wars.

 

You're narrowing your options down to marrying into Royalty. You like that girl?

 

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"There is no right to post on someone else's forum, just as there's no right to be published in someone else's newspaper. If the forum owner thinks a poster is harming business by annoying other users or if he simply doesn't like him, he's well within his rights to ban him. If you want freedom of expression on the web, somebody else's forum is not the place to find it."

What a load of bullshit. It is to the shame of the FM forum that a citizen should feel obliged to seek redress on the AN forum.

 

A person owns (or rents) a computer and pays for the bandwidth and power. He runs a program on it which creates a forum, and allows people to post to it. Why do you think that gives anyone else a right to use it?

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Whilst I agree with your opinion on the rights of access to rivers for canoe and kayaks Andy unfortunately your wrong about your right to post on an internet forum in that they can indeed be likened to a pub in that your there by invitation and this invitation can be revoked at anytime.

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