102 replies to this topic

[andy_youngs]

You say "ram"? You don't seem to have much wiggle room in your opinion. What's that all about?

Phone

You're right, I don't have much wiggle room. Nobody campaigning for canoe access rights in England and Wales has any wiggle room. We've been backed into a corner by the Angling Trust.

[andy_youngs]

It has taken the fun out of poaching, so I stopped around 18 years ago.

I utterly refute the assertion that I bear any resemblance to Victor Meldrew. And why are you associating canoeing with poaching? This doesn't help (for heavens sake)

[Newt]

Andy - I'm going to go against the majority on here and say that if you want to do this (contest the FM ban) as a hobby, go for it. The cost should not be too great and it can keep you busy in your spare time for months or possibly for years.

[barry luxton]

Take the advice Andy and keep on the canoe access trail. Put the access topic back on or start another. Come on do some good.

[andy_youngs]

Andy - I'm going to go against the majority on here and say that if you want to do this (contest the FM ban) as a hobby, go for it. The cost should not be too great and it can keep you busy in your spare time for months or possibly for years.

Why thank you Newt. Coming from the first 'mod' that I ever crossed swords with that really means something. Don't worry, I intend to keep punching away at this bag for a few more years yet.

Edited by andy_youngs, 10 March 2012 - 09:29 PM.

[Steve Walker]

There is no right to post on someone else's forum, just as there's no right to be published in someone else's newspaper. If the forum owner thinks a poster is harming business by annoying other users or if he simply doesn't like him, he's well within his rights to ban him. If you want freedom of expression on the web, somebody else's forum is not the place to find it.

[andy_youngs]

"There is no right to post on someone else's forum, just as there's no right to be published in someone else's newspaper. If the forum owner thinks a poster is harming business by annoying other users or if he simply doesn't like him, he's well within his rights to ban him. If you want freedom of expression on the web, somebody else's forum is not the place to find it."

What a load of bullshit. It is to the shame of the FM forum that a citizen should feel obliged to seek redress on the AN forum.

[Phone]

andy,

I agree with Steve. At least in the "land of the free and the home of the brave" that's true.

You sure you don't have such an obsession that you are not, in some ways, deprived of normal mental clarity or sound judgment on this topic. The last folks I knew who wanted to save their canoes without compromise got the chit kicked out of them in our Cowboy and Indian wars.

You're narrowing your options down to marrying into Royalty. You like that girl?

Phone

Edited by Phone, 11 March 2012 - 02:26 AM.

[Steve Walker]

"There is no right to post on someone else's forum, just as there's no right to be published in someone else's newspaper. If the forum owner thinks a poster is harming business by annoying other users or if he simply doesn't like him, he's well within his rights to ban him. If you want freedom of expression on the web, somebody else's forum is not the place to find it."

What a load of bullshit. It is to the shame of the FM forum that a citizen should feel obliged to seek redress on the AN forum.

A person owns (or rents) a computer and pays for the bandwidth and power. He runs a program on it which creates a forum, and allows people to post to it. Why do you think that gives anyone else a right to use it?

[snakey1]

Whilst I agree with your opinion on the rights of access to rivers for canoe and kayaks Andy unfortunately your wrong about your right to post on an internet forum in that they can indeed be likened to a pub in that your there by invitation and this invitation can be revoked at anytime.

Edited by snakey1, 11 March 2012 - 01:54 PM.