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#1 Quince

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 10:59 AM

Hi all i caught this funny coloured Roach the other day and was just wondering your opinion, is it a hybrid of some sort? or just a very yellow Roach?

 

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:11 PM

It's be an Orfe.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:14 PM

A blue orfe :-)

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Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub,  Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:21 PM

As above, that one's gone orfe! ;)

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:31 PM

Quince,

 

I agree with orfe.

 

Roach cross easily with smelt (which sometimes sneak into fresh water) but I doubt it but you don't mention a venue.

 

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 02:10 PM

A completely normal 100% roach. The lateral line scale count would be much, much higher if it was an orfe.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 02:23 PM

its awfully pale Mark, couldn't it have something else in it ?


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 02:40 PM

Quince,

 

I agree with orfe.

 

Roach cross easily with smelt (which sometimes sneak into fresh water) but I doubt it but you don't mention a venue.

 

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I'm guessing there's a common name conflict here Phone, 'our' roach Rutilus rutilis, (family Cyprinidae) wouldn't cross with 'our' smelt Osmerus esperlanus (family Osmeridae)!

 
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 03:31 PM

its awfully pale Mark, couldn't it have something else in it ?

The colouration depends great deal on the environment. Some waters which are almost milky in colouration have roach that are very very pale. Other very clear waters have beautifully coloured roach. I've also caught roach from waters that have a strong peat stain, and these often have a brownish colouration. The Loch Naw roach are a good example of these.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 05:47 PM

Must addmitt, it looks nothing like a roach to me.  Regardless of colouration it's just to slim in the body, nothing at all like the roach i've seen which are much deeper bodied, even at a young age. 

Maybe it's an ornimental dace :).







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