Bye bye Ed

[Ken L]

Now that the old alpha male has taken a bite out of the current pack leader, how long can it be before the other dogs in the pack start to notice that he is weak and begin vying for position and establishing their own alliances?

 

The question is though, are there any obvious contenders?

Edited October 25, 2014 by Ken L

[Steve Walker]

Blair is denying saying that, but his other comments about failing to win the centre ground are on record. New Labour is officially dead, let's see if people want Old Labour back - the party faithful do, but they aren't enough to win elections. Awful lot of voters who haven't lived under Old Labour who will need to be persuaded for or against rather than voting based on their experience.

[chesters1]

most labour voters probably didnt see the "new" they just voted because they couldnt stomach voting tory ,they would vote in hitler before voting anything but labour

on the plus side hitler did something good amongst the bad for germany.................

Edited October 25, 2014 by chesters1

[Puzzled]

most labour voters probably didnt see the "new" they just voted because they couldnt stomach voting tory ,they would vote in hitler before voting anything but labour

on the plus side hitler did something good amongst the bad for germany.................

 

What?

 

Are you sure Chesters?

 

I'm intrigued, just what do you think Adolf Hitler did that could be classed as "good" for Germany?

[chesters1]

Motorways ,nice uniforms ,work for glaziers ,lots of stuff ,after all they did win the war ,if they didnt invade poland then we couldnt have declared war on them and now they wouldnt be running britain ,the eu was a german idea

Edited October 25, 2014 by chesters1

[corydoras]

Motorways ,nice uniforms ,work for glaziers ,lots of stuff ,after all they did win the war ,if they didnt invade poland then we couldnt have declared war on them and now they wouldnt be running britain ,the eu was a german idea

How did you work that one out? Do you really think that if the Third Reich had not invaded Poland in 1939 that we would have just sat on our hands eight months later when France fell? Is that really what you think?

 

The EU was a German idea?

A strange opinion for one who is always advocating for the ORIGINAL proponent of an idea to get the credit for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Europe

[Vagabond]

The EU was a German idea?

A strange opinion for one who is always advocating for the ORIGINAL proponent of an idea to get the credit for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Europe

According to the link you give, the earliest suggestion came from King George from Bohemia in 1464.

 

OK, Germany as such didn't exist then, there was just a collection of Germanic states, but doesn't that appear to make Chesters right ?

[chesters1]

How did you work that one out? Do you really think that if the Third Reich had not invaded Poland in 1939 that we would have just sat on our hands eight months later when France fell? Is that really what you think?

 

The EU was a German idea?

A strange opinion for one who is always advocating for the ORIGINAL proponent of an idea to get the credit for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Europe

I meant the concept of germany ruling europe starting with poland and moving outward ,when we refused to join the club hitler then started building his defences to keep us out ,the general concept of a unified europe was probably roman ,like germanies method force rather than persuasion was the method then.

As for germany not winning the war who is top dog in europe today? Well after the allies gave them a boost up the ladder

 

Ps germany started forming its EU before 1939

Edited October 26, 2014 by chesters1

[barry luxton]

Motorways ,nice uniforms ,work for glaziers ,lots of stuff ,after all they did win the war ,if they didnt invade poland then we couldnt have declared war on them and now they wouldnt be running britain ,the eu was a german idea

 

And the car peoples car to go with the motorway

[chesters1]

Thank the brits for that

As usual even nasty johny foreigner is put higher than the ethnics by governments ,with our help their rationing stopped 5? Years earlier than ours

 

Now germany is ruling foreign countries via money rather than bullets but going by the last hundred years bullets are high on the list as alternatives if their policies are rejected

 

Had we not had americas help (albeit paid for in the main) the battle of dorking could have been non fiction!

 

Germans have always been hated its their job but rue the day when they start their expansionist ideas .

Never understood why foreigners exist ? Slaves? Harvesting for body parts ? Cant see any other reason

Edited October 26, 2014 by chesters1