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All,

 

I'll ramble a bit. Are there to many threads that equate catching and quality fishing as the same thing.??

 

Is it not acceptable to set a goal - say - to catch a perch on a pink frog - and then stick with it. Often, in fact, mostly toward the end of my "specialist" years I set parameters (sp?) that were not necessarily conducive to catching "lots" of fish (or often any fish).

 

What should the standard be? At some point catching has to be the primary goal (depending on station in life I suppose) and yet it surely isn't the only thing.

 

BTW - what goes around comes around. Now, since I don't get to go often I've once again become a "catch anything" angler.

 

Phone

 

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Not for me Phone. I only fish for thick lipped mullet and they can be a challenge to catch so blanking is the norm. Just having a nice day out of doors is the main thing. If I catch a mullet then so much the better.

The problem isn't what people don't know, it's what they know that just ain't so.
Vaut mieux ne rien dire et passer pour un con que de parler et prouver que t'en est un!
Mi, ch’fais toudis à m’mote

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Pretty much as Cory says. Two days stand out for me in my fishing "career" One was sea fishing. We were going for a summer trip on tope (shark) but took some spinning gear just in case we came across bass.....we did, the gannets were hitting the baitfish hard, we drifted past and lobbed spinners at the bass for an hour or so. We had a couple of dozen fish on light gear before seals became a problem snaffling fish off our hooks so, we steamed off for a relaxed few hours on the tope....we had 25 between four of us including my first (35lb) on a split cane rod and pin! Great stuff.

 

The other one was whilst upstream nymph fishing for grayling using a split cane rod and silk line. I had my first sea-trout that took me down to the backing in seconds (3wt rod and line)....I've never run so fast in waders in my life! it was only 1 1/2lb as well!

 

As for blanking? A relaxing day on a riverbank watching and listening to the wildlife is the best office I've ever had!

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Eating wild caught fish is good for my health, reduces food miles and keeps me fit trying to catch them........it's my choice to do it, not yours to stop me!

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Reminds me a bit of the very first time my dad took me sea fishing. It was of the rocks at Coulport back in the days when you could still fish there.

 

I had an old spinning rod with an open faced reel and a lump of lead with a ragworm for bait.

 

I got bored after the first half hour or so, then my dad put a new rag worm on and lobbed my line out as far as he could. 10 minutes later I had my first fish, 12lb of winter cod. Never looked back.

 

When I was in the Merchant Navy I always used to take a boat rod and reel with me. One day we broke down for a few hours in the afternoon and so I go the rod out and started pirking off the poop deck. I managed to get into a dolphin fish. I didn't have a hope of getting it on board but it was ten minutes of pure excitement until it eventually but inevitably got the hook out.

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The problem isn't what people don't know, it's what they know that just ain't so.
Vaut mieux ne rien dire et passer pour un con que de parler et prouver que t'en est un!
Mi, ch’fais toudis à m’mote

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Wot about the tope trip off the north welsh coast you took me on Nick that was a fun day, you was a right blanker that day?

 

I weren't much better, only had one.

 

Your fish pie made up for it though.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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For me it's the it's being by the waterside, the weather, the flora and fauna, the expectancy, the challenge ; they are all just as important to me as the catching of a certain fish or the size of the fish.

 

Blanking is an excuse to be at the venue, whether you catch or not, if it was all about catching I would use a Net ?

 

Bob

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Is it not acceptable to set a goal - say - to catch a perch on a pink frog - and then stick with it. Often, in fact, mostly toward the end of my "specialist" years I set parameters (sp?) that were not necessarily conducive to catching "lots" of fish (or often any fish).

 

I don't do it any more (situations change) but when I used to fish the Lea regularly, (Saturday Sunday and a couple of evenings per week) I used to use Saturday to experiment, I'd take something different as bait, something not commonly used as bait and no "proper" baits so I couldn't cheat, I rarely caught much on those sessions and never discovered any new bait phenomenons but I was fishing.

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If I go fishing with a baited hook then obviously I want to catch, otherwise I wouldn't bother with the baited hook.

This doesn't mean that I don/t sometimes blank. It also doesn't mean that I can't, or don't, enjoy all of the other aspects of a days fishing.

If I just want a day in the country, or to commune with nature, then I don't take the fishing gear.

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Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.

 

 

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity

 

 

 

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If I go fishing i'd much rather catch a fish and the more the merrier for me. Ok it's nice to be out and about in the countyside but if that's all I wanted i'd go for a walk with the dogs instead, infact the dogs are giving me the look right now (they're desperate to catch one of the hundreds of tree rats in the woods behind us) so i'm just about to do that :).

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Both Sportman and Tigger sum it up for me nicely. I go fishing to catch fish and while I enjoy the whole being out doors experience of going fishing, I enjoy that by just being out and about anyway. If I pack a rod and tackle to go out with then if I don't catch then I will always have at least a little sense of disappointment and failure.

 

It does not matter what other enjoyable sights or experiences I had that day, not catching sucks. Saying that, fishing does put you in the right place at the right time to see some great stuff but can't think that not catching a big fish on the same day would not make the trip a hell of a lot better.

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Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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