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#1 Andy_1984

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 04:54 PM

tank hasnt been going great this past year with losing the roach and rudd and for months now my tench has been extremely skittish bouncing off the walls when ever he gets startled (I moved a finger once and he freaked out)

 

im thinking its probably due to a lack of shoaling/busy fish to give him confidence. All that is left is my big tench, another tiny little tench and a weather loach.

 

Im giving up on an entirely native tank for the time being and wonder if Tiger Barbs would be suitable in a fresh water tank wich is around 20c-22c, 18c after a water change. as they look to remain quite small I think they could be the answer they also remind of perch and a big fat rudd.

 

maybe 5 of the little bugers ?


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Posted 02 February 2015 - 11:01 PM

Avid tail nippers, they do look nice but don't mix well with all in a community.


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Posted 02 February 2015 - 11:54 PM

Avid tail nippers, they do look nice but don't mix well with all in a community.

 

I read that. It was said if they are in larger numbers (more than 3-5) it tends not to happen. Still quite likely to happen you reckon ?

 

Probably time the tench found new digs though.


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 05:56 PM

I read that. It was said if they are in larger numbers (more than 3-5) it tends not to happen. Still quite likely to happen you reckon ?

 

Probably time the tench found new digs though.

 

 

They do say, that for some reason tiger barbs should be kept in uneven numbers, not sure how that is supposed to make a difference. I find that they can't resist the flowing tails of things like guppys, smaller Angels and Siamese fighters.


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Posted 13 February 2015 - 05:18 PM

Andy, ever thought of trying Cichlids?

I think you might like some of the Malawi species, very interesting fish and very rewarding to keep. They would need a heater in the tank but are so much more interesting in behaviour then standard tropicals or cold water species.

It's certainly worth some research in to options when changing direction with a tank.

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Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

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Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub,  Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

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Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
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Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
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Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
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Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
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Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek


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Posted 22 February 2015 - 07:02 PM

Andy_1984, on 02 Feb 2015 - 16:54, said:

 

Im giving up on an entirely native tank for the time being and wonder if Tiger Barbs would be suitable in a fresh water tank wich is around 20c-22c, 18c after a water change. as they look to remain quite small I think they could be the answer they also remind of perch and a big fat rudd.

 

maybe 5 of the little bugers ?

 

Not really, Tiger Barbs are found in the warmer areas of SE Asia. Something ideally suited to those temperatures (with a natural increase in Summer) would be the China or Green Barb, Puntius semifasciolatus. It's the same sp. as the Golden Barb, but the wild form, which I think is far more attractive, males show stunning green and red stripes. Many (not all) Danio sp. would be absolutely fine at those temps also. Best place I know of for interesting fish for the room temperature aquarium is Pier Aquatics in Wigan.



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Posted 23 February 2015 - 05:28 PM

I've got five bar barbs, glass catfish and praecox rainbowfish together, and I don't see any fin nipping.

The rainbow fish remind me of roach a bit, but more blue.

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On the temperature side, heaters are fairly cheap?

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Posted 23 February 2015 - 08:23 PM

D. pentazona are a much more placid fish than the Puntigrus spp., but in reality they're all pretty relaxed, there are far worse barbs than Tigers. Couple of Amano shrimp would help cut back on the Audouinella, Otos don't really deal with that stuff, it's a pain once it gets established. Are the smaller praecox home-grown?



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Posted 23 February 2015 - 09:00 PM

Ive got a heater had it running for a while when i first got tank, Steve if you remember it had a couple of tropicals from previous owner. There was a noticeable increase in electricity bills, perhaps it wasnt very efficient but either way i dont think i really want to have a heated tank.

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 09:36 AM

D. pentazona are a much more placid fish than the Puntigrus spp., but in reality they're all pretty relaxed, there are far worse barbs than Tigers. Couple of Amano shrimp would help cut back on the Audouinella, Otos don't really deal with that stuff, it's a pain once it gets established. Are the smaller praecox home-grown?

I've not had any spawnings yet, the smaller fish were recently added. I've had periods of lots of displaying behaviour from the males, but nothing has come of it.

At the moment the tank is being refreshed after a period of neglect - the small CO2 cylinder ran out and the lighting unit failed. I've recently replanted, added the large CO2 kit from another tank and replaced the dead compact T5 lighting unit with three 3.6W LED light bars. And I've restarted the EI fertiliser dosing regime. I've also added the otos and half a dozen Amano shrimp - I'm hoping this bunch are less inclined to climb out and turn up crispy under the sofa.