Now Where have I Read That Before?

[stavey]

Personally, I would be all in favour of a fence-mending process with the commercial fishermen.

 

JB

 

Hello john and michele

I think the majority of the rsa would be in favour to john, but you see the commercial industry wants it all there own way full stop, now if things where to change then ofcourse representatives can sit down and sort things out, you know like they do in other antipodean country's for example john, one thing is for certain though things will never return to what they were thats for sure, cheers...........

[glennk]

This is what one person has put in my forum.

 

"Well I personally wouldn't mind seeing a restriction imposed on the amount of fish you can keep when recreational fishing. I understand they are putting a limit on it in the Channel Islands as a test bed. As long as the commercials stay within their boundaries then so would I. Anything to help protect fish stocks. no matter how small its got to be a good thing.80 STONES OF FILLET IS TAKING THE P*SS. And the comment about "Supplying the family" is an insult to my intelligence. I love fishing I have my own boat but I cannot abide Greed. I think it has raised a valid point. "

[Jim Roper]

Every year at this time, there are a lot of squid to be caught around Portland.

 

I was talking to someone who had tried his hand at it but, he could not catch as many as the locals. He reckoned that a boat within a few yards of where he was fishing 'must have had about 30 stone'.

 

These are boats of 14ft max and not powered!

 

Is anybody suggesting that fish that have a very short season should be subject to bag limits, or doesn't it matter about bait species?

[JB]

Hello john and michele

I think the majority of the rsa would be in favour to john, but you see the commercial industry wants it all there own way full stop, now if things where to change then ofcourse representatives can sit down and sort things out, you know like they do in other antipodean country's for example john, one thing is for certain though things will never return to what they were thats for sure, cheers...........

 

Hello Stavey,

Having been involved in both the commercial and chartering industries for many years, I have found in the main that both the commercial fishermen and the recreational anglers are very nice, normal, sensible, decent people; and the vast majority have an eye for the future. However, representatives of both parties seem to me to be somewhat different. Maybe it is their vocation to stir things up with half-truths and misinformation?

 

Common people don’t start wars, their leaders do.

 

JB

[The doctor]

However, representatives of both parties seem to me to be somewhat different. Maybe it is their vocation to stir things up with half-truths and misinformation?

 

John, I'd be interested to know what you consider the RSA reps have done to stir things up with the commercial sector, and what half truths and misinformation they have used to their end.

 

regards

 

 

Doc.

[stavey]

Hello Stavey,

Having been involved in both the commercial and chartering industries for many years, I have found in the main that both the commercial fishermen and the recreational anglers are very nice, normal, sensible, decent people; and the vast majority have an eye for the future. However, representatives of both parties seem to me to be somewhat different. Maybe it is their vocation to stir things up with half-truths and misinformation?

 

Common people don’t start wars, their leaders do.

 

JB

 

Hi john, well thats how it used to be i agree, but with todays technology like the internet and sea angling forums for instance the common people are so much more informed to what is and want is not happening and are drawing their own conclusions, and even better airing their views, and as we have found out being listened to by all insundry.

I am one of those common people john we are all not leons/docs/steve's/ or any other unelected representatives, just simple common people that have put up with the short end of the stick for far to long and now its time to stand up and be counted, sea angling was one of my favourite passtimes and it has been totaly wrecked by a greedy few imo, i dont blame the small individual local fishermen so much but those with large trawlers and factory ships (that were addmittedly encouraged by past governments) for what has happened, things must change if there is any chance of a recovery and i feel that whats left of the commercial industry it must do the same.....cheers

[glennk]

Edited November 22, 2006 by glennk

[Ian Burrett]

I've wrote numerous letters to DEFRA on this issue. Hardly ever even get a reply. Most of the other people I know who moan constantly about the commercials and defra just hide themselves away when you ask for their support.

 

cheers - Glenn

 

p.s You never did tell us who Ken was ?

 

Challenge should be able to tell you. I asked him four times and never got an answer

[glennk]

Thank you Challenge.

We couldn't have done it without you!

 

Aberdeen Fish Curers & Merchants Association Ltd (AFCAMA)

Aberdeen Fish Salesmens' Association

Aberdeen FPO

Aberdeen Harbour Board

Aberdeen Inshore Fishselling Co Ltd

Agalia Seafoods Ltd

Aldeburgh Fishermen’s Trade Guild Ltd

Amble Seine net and Keel Boat Association

Anchor Seafoods Ltd

Anglia Fishermen’s Association

Anglo Northern Irish FPO Ltd

Anglo Scottish FPO Ltd

Anglo Scottish Shellfishermen’s Association

Anglo-Scottish Fishermen's Association

Annan Fishermen's Association

Arbroath Fish Buyer's Association

Arbroath Fishermans Association Ltd

Association for the Protection of Rural Scotland

Association of British Salted Fish Curers & Exporters Ltd

Association of Scottish Shellfish Growers

Association of Sea Fisheries Committees

Avoch Fishermen's Co-operative Ltd

Ayr Wholesale Fish Buyer's Association

 

Beadnell Harbour Fishermen’s Society Ltd

Berneray (North Uist) Fishermen Ltd

Berwick Fishermen’s Association

BFP Fish Selling Co

Binatone - Ex Forum Poster (supposedly)

Blyth Fishermen’s Association

Boulmer Fishermen’s Association

Boston Fishermen's Association

Boyd Line Ltd

Brancaster Staithe Fishermen’s Society Ltd

Bridlington & Flamborough Fishermen’s Society

Bridport Commercial Boat Owners & Fishermens Association

Brightlingsea Fishermen’s Association

Brighton Fishermen’s & Boatman’s Protection Soc

Brighton Fishermen’s Protection Society

British Frozen Food Federation

British Marine Finfish Association

Brixham Trawler Agents

Brixham Trawler Owners Association

Broadstairs Fishermen’s Association

Butley Orford Oysterage

 

Cadgwith Helford & District Fishermen’s Ltd

Caister-on-Sea Inshore Fishermen’s Association

Caley Fisheies Ltd

Calshot Oyster Fishermen Ltd

Cardigan Bay Fishermen’s Assoc

Carradale Fishermen Ltd

Challenge - Forum Posters for Bag Limits on Cod Anglers (CFPBLCA)

Clackmannanshire Council

Clacton & District Fishermen’s Preservation Society

Clovelly Fishermen’s Association

Clyde and South West Static Gear Assoc

Clyde Fishermen’s Association

Cod for Commercials Only Trust

Colne Fishing and Shipping Company

Consumers' Association

Cornish FPO Ltd

Cornwall Inshore Fishermen’s Federation

Cornwall SFC

Cornwall Wildlife Trust

Cowny Mussel Fishermen’s Assoc

Croan Seafoods Ltd

Cumbria Sea Fisheries Committee

 

Deal & Walmer Fishermens’ Association

Dee Estuary Sea Fisheries Group

Devon Sea Fisheries Committee

Dungenness Gill Netters Association

 

East Coast Licenced Small Boats Assoc

East Dene Fishermen’s Association

East Devon Fishermen’s Association

Eastbourne Fishermen’s & Boatman’s Protection Society

Eastern England Fiish Producers Organisation Ltd

Eastern Sea Fisheries Joint Committee

Emsworth Harbour Fishermen’s Federation

Exe Trawlermen’s Association

Ex Trawlermen’s Association

Eyemouth Fish merchants Assoc

 

Falmouth Fishselling Co Ltd

Federation of Highlands and Islands Fishermen

Felixstowe Ferry Fishermen

Fife Creel Fishermens Association

Fife Fishermens Association

Fife FPO

Fisher Foods

Fishermans Association Ltd

Fishermen’s Federation of Northumberland

Fishermens Fishselling

Fishermens Mutual Association (Eyemouth) Ltd

Fishermens Mutual Association (Pittenweem) Ltd

Fishmongers Company

Fishsalesmen's Association (Scotland) Ltd

Fleetwood Fish Forum

Fleetwood FPO Ltd

Folkestone Fishermen’s Association

Folkestone Trawlers Ltd

Fraserburgh Harbour Commissioners

Fraserburgh Inshore Fishermen Ltd

Fraserburgh Trawlers

Fresh Catch Peterhead

 

Gee Bee Fishing Company

Glen Isla Seafoods Ltd

Gosport Commercial Fishermen’s Association

Grampian Sea Fishing Ltd

Grampian Seafoods

Great Yarmouth Inshore Fishermen’s Federation

Grimsby Fish Merchants Association

Grimsby Fishing Vessel Owners Association

Grimsby FPO Ltd

Grimsby Seiners Association

 

H S Fishing 2000 Ltd

Hamble River Professional Fishermen’s Association

Hardway Fishermen’s Association

Harwich Fishermen’s Association

Hastings Fishermens’ Protection Society

Hayle Fishermen’s Association

Heipleog and Lynn Shrimpers

Herring Buyers' Association

Highland Shellfish Management Organisation

Highlands and Islands Fshermen's Association

Holehaven Fishermen’s Association

Holy Island Fishermen’s Society Ltd

Hoylake Fishermen’s Association

Humberside and East Coast Inshore Fishermen’s Association

Humberside Share Fishermen’s Association

Hythe Fishermen’s Association

 

Inner Camber Fishermen’s Association

Inshore Servioces (Lowestoft) Ltd

Interfish Limited

International Fish Canners

Inter-Quo Ltd

Isle of Mann Fishermen's Association

Isle of Wight Commercial Fisherman’s Association

Isles of Scilly Sea Fisheries

 

J & W Stuart Ltd

J Marr & Sons Ltd

JBA Ltd

John Lake Shellfish Ltd

Joint Fishing Communities Of South & West Wales

 

Kent & Essex Sea Fisheries Committee

Keyhaven Fishermen’s Association

King’s Lynn Fishermen’s Association

King’s Lynn Fishing Industry Co-Operative

King’s Lynn Fishing Vessels Owners & Skippers Association

Kinlochbervie Fishselling Co Ltd

 

Langstone Harbour Fishermen’s Association

Leigh Fishermans Co-operative

Leigh-On-Sea & Southend Fishermen’s Association

Lerwick Port Authority

Less Anglers Foundation

Littlehampton Commercial Fishermen’s Association

Littlehampton Fishermen’s Association

Live Shellfish Traders' Association

Llyn Inshore Fishermen’s Association

Looe Fishermen’s Protection Association

Lowestoft FPO

Lunar Fishing Company

Lyme Regis Fishermen’s Association

Lymington Fishermen’s Association

 

Macduff Shipyards Ltd

Mallaig & North-West Fishermen's Association

Mallaig Harbour Authority

Margate Fishermen’s Association

Marr Fishing Vessel

Marr Foods Ltd

Maryport and Solway Fishing Co-op Ltd

Mevagissey Fisheries Protection Association

Mevagissy Fishermans Protection Association

Milford Haven Netting Association

Milford Haven Shellfishermen’s Assoc

Milford Inshore Fishermen’s Association

Milford Marine Management

Monteum Ltd

Moray Firth Fish Processors and Merchants' Association Ltd

Moray Firth Partnership (SNH)

Moray Seafoods Ltd

Mistaken Anglers' Defence (MAD)

Morecambe & Heysham Fishermen’s Association

Morecambe Bay Fishermen’s Association

Mudeford and District Fishermen’s Association

Mull Fishermen's Association

Myti Mussels Ltd

 

National Federation of Fish Friers

National Federation of Fishermen’s Organisation

National Federation of Skippers

Newbiggin Fishermen’s Association

Newhaven (Sussex) Fish and Flake Ice Society Ltd

Newlyn Fish Merchants Association

Newlyn Fishing Boat Owners’ Association

Newquay Fishermen’s Association

Normans Bay Fishermen’s Protection Society

North Atlantic Fisheries College

North Atlantic Fishing Co

North East Boating Association

North East Of Scotland FPO

North East Scotland Fisheries Development Partnership

North Eastern Sea Fisheries Committee

North Norfolk Fishermen’s Society

North Norfolk Shellfishermen’s Association

North Sea FPO

North West Fishermen’s Association

North West Fishermen’s Association (Southern Branch)

North Western and North Wales Sea Fisheries Committee

Northern FPO Ltd

Northern Ireland Fishermens Federation

Northern Ireland Fish Producers' Organisation

Northern Ireland Fishery Harbour Authority

Northern Ireland Seafood

Northumberland Static Gear Association

 

Oban Port Association, Caley Fisheries Ltd

Orkney Fishermen’s Association

Orkney Fishermen's Society Ltd

Orkney Inshore Shellfisheries Management Assoc

 

Padstow Fishermen’s Society Ltd

Palling Inshore Fishermen’s Association

Penclawdd Cockle Gatherer’s Association

Penfro Peche Limited

P!TA

Peterhead Fishermen Ltd

Peterhead Harbour Trustees

Piri Fisheries Ltd

Plymouth Fishermen’s Association

Plymouth Oysterman’s Association

Plymouth Trawler Owners Association

Polperro Fishermen

Poole & District Fishermen’s Association

Poole Charter Skippers Association

Port Isaac Fishermen Limited

Portland Fishermen’s Association

Portsmouth Oysterman’s Association

 

Queensborough Fishermen’s Association

 

R Whitton Shellfish

Rawlings Trawling

Redcar Fishermen’s Society

Ross of Mull and Iona Fishermen's Association

Rye Fishermen’s Association

 

Salvesen Fishing (UK) Ltd

Scallop Association

Scarborough Inshore Fishermen’s Society

Scotprime Seafoods Ltd

Scottish Association of Fish Producers' Organisations Ltd

Scottish Fish Merchants Federation

Scottish Fisheries Protection Agency

Scottish Fishermen’s Federation

Scottish Fishermens Organisation

Scottish Fishing Services Association

Scottish Net Makers Association

Scottish Pelagic Fishermen’s Association

Scottish Scallop Fishermen's Association

Scottish Shellfish Marketing Group Ltd

Scottish White Fish Producers' Association c/o Macrae & Stephen

Sea Fish Industry Authority

Sea Fish Industry Authority (Scotland)

Sea Palling Fishermen’s Association

Seafalke Shipping Co Ltd

Seafood Scotland

Seafood Shetland

Seaham Boat Owners Association

Seahouses Fishermen’s Association

Seals and Other Cod Eaters Ltd

Selsey Fishermen’s Association

Shellfish Ltd

Shellfish Association of Great Britain

Shetland Fish Salesmen's Association Ltd

Shetland Fishermen's Association

Shetland FPO

Shetland Shellfish Management Organisation

Shetland Shellfishermen’s Association

 

Shoreham Port Fishermen's Association Silloth Fishermen’s Assoc

Skye & Lochalsh Fishermen's Association

Sole Trader

Solent Fishermen’s Association

Solent Oyster Farmers & Fishermen’s Association

Solway Shellfish Management Association

South Coast Fishermen's Council

South Devon & Channel Shellfishermen Ltd

South East Fishermen’s Federation

South Wales Sea Fisheries Committee

South West FPO Ltd

South West Wales Fishing Community Ltd

Southern Commercial Fishermen

Southern Sea Fisheries District Fishermen’s Council

Southern SFC

Southwold Harbour Master

Sovereign Harbour Fishermen Association

St Hawes & District Fishermens Association

Stan Laural And Oliver Hardy Conservation Fund 'that's another fine mess you've gotten me into'

Standard Quay Fisheries

Stanswood Bay Oystermen Ltd

Stop Angling Unity Now!

Stornaway Fishermen's Co-operative Ltd

Stornaway Pier & Harbour Commission

Suffolk Coastal Fishing Association

Suffolk Small Boat Community Fishermen

Sunderland Fishermen’s Association

Sussex SFC

Swale Fishermen’s Association

Swanage Fishermen’s Association

 

Tarbert-Argyll Fishermen Ltd

Tees and Hartlepool Port Authority

Ten Metre and Under Association

Thanet Fishermen’s Association

The Antis Ltd

The Eartworms' Anciety Association

The FPO Ltd

The Ken Bell Seafood Company

The Lobster Pot

The Potted Cod Cathers

The National Federation of Inland Wholesale Fish Merchants

The National Federaton of Fishmongers

The Northumberland Sea Fisheries Committee

The Shellfish Network

The Society for the Protection of Cod for Netters

The South & West Wales Fishing Communities Ltd

The What's Good for the Goose is Good for the Gander Association

Thurstaston Fishermen’s Association

 

UK Association of Fish Meal Manufacturers

UKAFPO

Ullapool and Assynt Fishermen's Association

Ullapool Harbour Trustees

United Fish Products Ltd

United Fish Selling Ltd

United Cod Bycatch IUU

 

Wales and West Coast FPO

Wash Area Fishermen’s Protection Society

Waterside Fishermen’s Association

Wells & District Inshore Fishermen’s Association

Welsh Federation of Fisherman's Associations

West Bay Fishermen’s Association

West Coast Sea Products

West Mersea Fishermen’s Association

West of Four Fisheries Management Group

West of Scotland FPO

Western Isles Fishermens Association

Westray Processors Ltd

Westside Fishermen Ltd

Weymouth & Portland Fishermen’s & Licensed Boatmens Association

Whitehaven Fishermen’s Association

Whitstable Fishermen’s Association

Who Needs Friends' Association

Wick and Scrabster Fish Traders Association

Wick Fishing Boat Owners & Skippers Association

Wirral Traditional Cocklers Association

Withernsea Fishermen’s Association

Wittersham & Bracklesham Fishermen’s Association

Worthing Fishermen’s Association

This is a living doc. The list is still open. Sorry if some slipped in who shouldn't be there. Those I delete of course should they complain.

 

 

 

What is this and why is it relevant here ?

[glennk]

Sorry mate you are going to have to put that in real simple terms. Its going straight over my head.

 

Can anyone else explain this list and its relevence to a simpleton ?

 

And does anyone know who Ken Is ??? Ian wont tell me

Edited November 18, 2006 by glennk