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#11 groyne bandit

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 06:19 PM

i to love a few mackeral for the table or the barbie ,, but when ive got a few if i want to carry on with the bashing gear i just stick 1 jelly worm on 4ft from the weight & play practice casting ,,,,
far to many people keep going with a 6 string ,well after they have had loads ,,
i go down to a spinner ,,,even from chesil & had loads of fun with 1 at a time
cant understand the waste at the bins some times,,
Ime off to yak skoool,,,,,,no more overruns to get out there,,,,

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 09:03 AM

I can't understand why folks don't give them away if they have too many, I'm always happy to take spare fish, but instead they catch sacks full, then dump half of them when they realise how heavy their sack is.

it's been many a year since I had a cast into a shoal of mackeral, i'm salivating at the thought of freshly caught mackeral roasted on sticks above a drift wood fire.......fantastic.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 07:11 AM

Out of interest, where does the data relating to fish deaths after contact with a human hand come from ?

Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima.  Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.

Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullen's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.
Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub. 
Species caught in 2014: Striped catfish. Pacu. Giant gourami. Clown knife fish. Rohu. Siamese carp. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Roach. Bream. Perch. Rainbow trout. Chub. Common Carp, Ide. Brown Trout. Barbel. Mekong catfish. Jullen's golden carp. Alligator gar. Java barb.
Species caught in 2013: Mangrove Jack. Barramundi. Blubberlip snapper. Baracouda. Malabar grouper. Yellowfin Trevally. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Roach. Pike. European Eel. Bleak.
Species caught in 2012: Northern whiting. Moray eel. Barramundi. Snakehead murrel. Silver razorbelly minnow. Deccan Mahseer. Malabar mystus. Deccan rita. Spotted Malabar Grouper. Mangrove Jack. Indian sea catfish. Brown Trout. Chub. Perch. Roach. Rudd.
Species caught in 2011: Indian sea catfish. Sardine. Barramundi. Mangrove Jack. Deccan Mahseer. Humpbacked Mahseer. Yellow Fin Trevelly. Giant Trevelly. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Pike. Atlantic salmon. Dace. Minnow. Roach. Gudgeon. 
Species caught in 2010: Barramundi. Giant Trevelly. Moray eel. Indian sea catfish. Mangrove Jack. Deccan Mahseer. Humpback Mahseer. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Bass. Pike. 
Species caught in 2009: Chub. Perch. Pike. Pacu. Thai Striped Catfish. 
Species caught in 2008: Barramundi. p-i-k-e-y sea bream. Indian sea catfish. Guitarfish. Mangrove Jack. Mahseer. Squid (Not strictly a fish but it took a lure !). Emperor Sweetlip. Black Spot Snapper. Moray eel. Spangled Emperor. Bluecheek silver grunt. Yellow striped emperor. Vanikoro sweeper. Pike. Perch. Brown trout. Chub. Atlantic salmon.


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Posted 29 March 2007 - 08:16 AM

Out of interest, where does the data relating to fish deaths after contact with a human hand come from ?



I copied Leon & Mikes letters off a different site, there were some bits missing, i.e. the references, heres the whole thing.

http://www.sacn.org....g_Mackerel.html

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 06:13 PM

Just how hard are these fish hooked? i've never yet seen a hand print on a fish i've returned, and by the way what i'm not going to eat or use as bait goes straight back.

Is this all a bit of an old wives tale? (admittedly i do often use an old bar towel when i'm unhooking to avoid slime when handling kit/tying etc)
If I ever get the hang of it they'll bloody well ban it!


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Posted 29 March 2007 - 06:45 PM

Just how hard are these fish hooked? i've never yet seen a hand print on a fish i've returned, and by the way what i'm not going to eat or use as bait goes straight back.

Is this all a bit of an old wives tale? (admittedly i do often use an old bar towel when i'm unhooking to avoid slime when handling kit/tying etc)


Hi roryh,

I don't think the handprint becomes evident straight away, its damage to the skin at the microscopic level, its been reported by divers finding dead or dying fish with obvious human handprints on them.

The fish are quite easily shaken off the hook in most cases & fair play to you for returning what you don't need, its just that, until we know for certain that this is not an old wives tale, I think we should be erring on the side of caution with the safe return of these fish. After all, we don't want to be seen as uncaring do we ?

I still want to catch a 6lb mackerel and I want my son & his children to so lets just do what we can now eh ? :) :fishing1:

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 06:48 PM

Hi roryh,

I don't think the handprint becomes evident straight away, its damage to the skin at the microscopic level, its been reported by divers finding dead or dying fish with obvious human handprints on them.

The fish are quite easily shaken off the hook in most cases & fair play to you for returning what you don't need, its just that, until we know for certain that this is not an old wives tale, I think we should be erring on the side of caution with the safe return of these fish. After all, we don't want to be seen as uncaring do we ?

I still want to catch a 6lb mackerel and I want my son & his children to so lets just do what we can now eh ? :) :fishing1:


I wonder if it's worth considering barbless hooks when feathering to release them?

 Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.

 
New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.
 
Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.
 
Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.
 
new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.
 
Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because  they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are.. 


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Posted 29 March 2007 - 07:09 PM

I wonder if it's worth considering barbless hooks when feathering to release them?



Certainly wouldn't hurt, just crimp the barbs with some pliers, you'd still have the playing of the fish, just make it easier to release safely, nice one barry.

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 01:30 PM

Hi roryh,

I don't think the handprint becomes evident straight away, its damage to the skin at the microscopic level, its been reported by divers finding dead or dying fish with obvious human handprints on them.

The fish are quite easily shaken off the hook in most cases & fair play to you for returning what you don't need, its just that, until we know for certain that this is not an old wives tale, I think we should be erring on the side of caution with the safe return of these fish. After all, we don't want to be seen as uncaring do we ?

I still want to catch a 6lb mackerel and I want my son & his children to so lets just do what we can now eh ? :) :fishing1:

Fair play mate will avoid touching the non-keepers as much as possible then just to be on the safe side.
If I ever get the hang of it they'll bloody well ban it!


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Posted 05 April 2007 - 01:56 PM

glad to know this
as i released a few last summer which going by your info they will be dead :(
i will pass the word round the guys i fish with
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