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#71 SMOOTHOUND

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 09:45 PM

Mackerel being caught often along Hayling beaches

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:50 AM

There have been some flocks of gulls hitting sanderling or similar. May well be the returning thousands causing them to ball. Any other signs up the east coast?
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:18 PM

Hi All

I will always have my doubts about touch a Mackerel and it dies. I am with you all the way on only taking what you have a use for, NOT JUST MACKEREL, all other fish but unforetuately that gets spred around by someone thinking they know better than everyone else and a cap gets put on the number we should take. I have refused to go on certain charter boat trips because there is a quota put on the number of fish the anglers can take. In notable instances the remainer of the catch gets sold to restraunts, I only hope the correct license fees are paid to make it legal.

Float fishing spinning and fly fishing is the only way a true angler should fish for Mackerel they are a very sporting little fish.

 

By the way the last batch of record size Mackerel happened along because they were fished to a level where they were becoming scarce if not rare. What happened then was there was an explosion in the food species that Mackerel feed on in all their developement stages, this resulted in the Mackerel that were present had an unlimited amount of food, hence the terriffic growth rate. Many Mackerel we caught then had comparativly tiny heads and tails and really bulky bodies. I use to have some photos must have a look for them.

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 08:06 PM

4 nice spotty mackerel caught yesterday, all are 60-61 cm

 

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 07:26 AM

4 nice spotty mackerel caught yesterday, all are 60-61 cm

 

Nice fish BobJ

 

Are they the same as Queensland School Mackerel Scomberomorus queenslandicus  ( AKA Blotched Mackerel Cybium queenslandicus) ?

We had some of those up at the Top End

 

here's one - fewer spots than yours - we took for the pot

 

Queensland School Mackerel.jpg

 

If I remember rightly, it was a bit disappointing flavour-wise

 

There is another Spotted Mackerel Sawara niphonia  (AKA Japanese Spanish Mackerel) with smaller but more numerous spots - and a purple sheen, which seems to be the case with your fish.  I have not caught any of them, but Grant says they are good eating, although his pic looks a bit different to your photo.


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Posted 01 September 2014 - 05:55 PM

4 nice spotty mackerel caught yesterday, all are 60-61 cm

 

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fancs for the foto, they look super.


 Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.

 
New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.
 
Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.
 
Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.
 
new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.
 
Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because  they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are.. 


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Posted 01 September 2014 - 06:08 PM

there is no cap on the amount of mackerel to take, indeed the advice from the science this year has doubled the u k stock, so there appears to be no shortage. Spend all my life on charter boats up and down the channel and never heard of a mackerel cap, never. Saying that, I would not consider going with a skipper who ignores the regulation and imposes whatever regulation he thinks to suit his agenda. There's a lot of this at the mo, with so called angling guides who takes guys out because they haven't got the acumen to go find their own fish, in particular the bass. So the plonkers pay over inflated prices to have 'use' of these expert guides who consider they are doing right by the stock, by insisting either c&r or one fish limit.

 

Mackerel do not have a good chance of survival if handled. Indeed you can handle one, put it in a bucket of water for a short while and low and behold you will have sight of your finger prints showing on their flesh, they do not live long once handled. I do not agree with a mls for the rsa either for that very reason, so all that are handled, caught should be taken, once you have enough, stop fishing for them, is far better than thinking that they will live if sent back. Yes I know there will be some who will suggest shaking them off the hook as said, once you have enough, move on to something else or another species if you really care about the fish.


 Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.

 
New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.
 
Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.
 
Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.
 
new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.
 
Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because  they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are.. 


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 03:50 AM

Nice fish BobJ

 

Are they the same as Queensland School Mackerel Scomberomorus queenslandicus  ( AKA Blotched Mackerel Cybium queenslandicus) ?

We had some of those up at the Top End

 

here's one - fewer spots than yours - we took for the pot

 

attachicon.gifQueensland School Mackerel.jpg

 

If I remember rightly, it was a bit disappointing flavour-wise

 

There is another Spotted Mackerel Sawara niphonia  (AKA Japanese Spanish Mackerel) with smaller but more numerous spots - and a purple sheen, which seems to be the case with your fish.  I have not caught any of them, but Grant says they are good eating, although his pic looks a bit different to your photo.

Them's 'em...Locally known as spotties; they have to be 60 cm.

 

The Queenslandicus are referred to as doggie mackerel and only need to be 50 cm to take home.

 

Early in the season (after the wet) it is usually doggies and spanish, with a few broadbar. As the season progresses, the doggies move away and the spotties come in. The big spaniards head out to the off shore islands. Greys and broadbar have been rare this season.

 

The spotties in my pic are pre spawning, Ern Grant's pic is post spawning.

 

 





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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:16 AM

Thanks. BobJ, that will add a pencilled note in my copy of Grant

 

Them's 'em...Locally known as spotties; they have to be 60 cm.

 

 

The spotties in my pic are pre spawning, Ern Grant's pic is post spawning.

 

 

 

Thanks BobJ, that will add a pencilled note in my copy of Grant,   we did also get greys, narrow-barred and broad-barred Spaniards on our visits to the Top End and also Ord river.

 

Having fished many places around the world, IMHO tropical Australia is easily the most productive - lots of fish, lots of species, and plenty of whoppers too.


Edited by Vagabond, 03 September 2014 - 06:21 AM.



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Posted 13 October 2015 - 11:46 PM

 

Just caught this morning, Vagabond, a 31.5" (80cm) spotty mackerel, again, prespawning. Note the good condition.

 

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