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#11 barry luxton

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 12:18 PM

Why would any sane person want to watch a program about comercial fisherman?
They will put any old crap on the telly these days but this is a joke even by there standards.
maybe if the viewing public new what really went on they would turn over and watch something more sensible like the tellytubbys.


It's called knowledge, if you do not know how a commercial operates then you cannot complain as you do not know if they are doing it right or not or within the regs. Then you have to use your brain to decide what you are watching is fact or bullshine. Personally i find programes like that interesting, but who knows, it might be me thats odd. This topic appears to be going political.

I agree with Glennk, i would also like to see something done about the small size of cod, raise the mls to a realistic size?

Edited by barry luxton, 13 June 2007 - 12:25 PM.

 Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.

 
New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.
 
Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.
 
Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.
 
new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.
 
Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because  they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are.. 


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Posted 13 June 2007 - 12:53 PM

I enjoy waching it too some of the characters are very entertaining. My only critisism would be it doesnt show many of the "bad bits"but like Barry says its knowlege and it makes more people aware of the industry that affects anglers so much.

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 01:43 PM

Hi Commercial Licker. The sooner commercial fishermen are an endangered species the better. BTW this is an angling forum.


Only the ones who blatantly ignore the rules should be removed from the industry for all to benifit. Where would we get our fish and chip suppers from then.

 Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.

 
New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.
 
Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.
 
Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.
 
new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.
 
Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because  they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are.. 


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Posted 13 June 2007 - 02:39 PM

In the SouthWest we have a 50kg a month quota for cod, now that ain't alot per boat, What makes me laugh is the quota for Pollock During the sporning months and the pollock are on the wrecks there are no quotas, netter hit and empty every wreck , now when the remaining fish have spent and dispersed, fisherys put a limit on them.
Where is the sense! :g:

Cod fishing down the Southwest is improving, better size and better numbers, Thats got to be a good sign!
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Posted 13 June 2007 - 03:02 PM

Are Cod a endangered species?
Why are commercial fishermen and anglers catching so much cod?
Could the marine labs be wrong?
Is decommisioning of vessels working?
Should charter vessels have days at sea limits?
Should all cod be returned caught by chartered vessels?

Trawler men returns to our screens on the 18 JUNE and I recommend you watch it after talking to
skippers of Amity and Renown its going to be better viewing than the last time.


ONCE UPON A TIME AND WAKE UP MY MAN.

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 03:28 PM

In the SouthWest we have a 50kg a month quota for cod, now that ain't alot per boat, What makes me laugh is the quota for Pollock During the sporning months and the pollock are on the wrecks there are no quotas, netter hit and empty every wreck , now when the remaining fish have spent and dispersed, fisherys put a limit on them.
Where is the sense! :g:

Cod fishing down the Southwest is improving, better size and better numbers, Thats got to be a good sign!


Hi MustGoFishing, do you run the boat yourself. It's good news that the cod are showing improvement as well down in your area. However i think Glennk makes a good point that it is the spawning biomass that is of importance and concern. Fingers crossed that enough can remain to grow and grow. I do go to the sw lots and maybe if you do run the boat, i can sort out some trips.
Simon Pedley in Paignton is a mate.

The commercial boats during the winter in the sw as i understand it had a tremendous time with the cod fishing and reached the quota in next to no time, so i must assume that defra have now allowed for more to be caught?

Regarding netting of the wrecks, again as i understand it there are only so many times the wrecks can be netted subject to the tide as they can only net them on a low? In addition i have found over the years that the pollack on the wrecks are seasonal, one miniute there are none, the next in particular during the spring the larger ones appear and a good time is had by all. I know it is frustrating that you cannot fish a wreck that is netted and just one commercial can net a whole load. In my mind it does not take long for the same wrecks to be re-populated thank goodness. I have to say that i have had some good pollack catches down near you this year. Cheers.

 Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.

 
New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.
 
Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.
 
Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.
 
new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.
 
Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because  they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are.. 


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Posted 13 June 2007 - 05:48 PM

I must be insane then Bob.. I quite enjoy watching the series :thumbs:

And so did millions of other people in this country, apparently the response was unprecedented and the BBC have (through public demand) commissioned this new series and are already talking about a third. Please donít anybody say that itís a waste of licence payerís money because the world wide sales have apparently grossed and returned more to the kitty than they originally thought.
I wonder if a documentary on anglers and there representatives would have the same effect.
maybe the enemy within, or the real enemy as some narrow minded people with personal vendettas would like to describe commercial fishermen, is about as accurate as there other FACTS that they keep telling us about.
How strange how people only want to watch what they want to see. How strange and sad that people on here described the first series as a commercial propaganda program before it had even been screened.
Personally after spending most of my working life in the North Sea I found it good, entertaining, and informative and the refreshing thing about it was that it was anything but political, I look forward to the next series. I am also looking forward to an improvement in the weather so I can go off angling again.
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Posted 13 June 2007 - 06:02 PM

maybe the enemy within, or the real enemy as some narrow minded people with personal vendettas would like to describe commercial fishermen, is about as accurate as there other FACTS that they keep telling us about.


Hi Challenge, i really don't know what you are trying to tell us here? Please enlighten me and what other facts do 'they' keep telling us about?

 Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.

 
New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.
 
Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.
 
Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.
 
new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.
 
Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because  they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are.. 


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Posted 13 June 2007 - 06:09 PM

"I wonder if a documentary on anglers and there representatives would have the same effect."

Err, JW, MH, HG, and a few hundred others, angling keep's discovery channel afloat...heard of fishomania?.

Its a concept where people fish for sport, not to destroy, very appealing to the general public.

20 Years of Angling (fishing) i'v kept and eaten two, the rest have gone back.

I've also got pictures of the two fish i kept, how sad is that? B)

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"I wonder if a documentary on anglers and there representatives would have the same effect."

Err, JW, MH, HG, and a few hundred others, angling keep's discovery channel afloat...heard of fishomania?.

Its a concept where people fish for sport, not to destroy, very appealing to the general public.

20 Years of Angling (fishing) i'v kept and eaten two, the rest have gone back.

I've also got pictures of the two fish i kept, how sad is that? B)

They possibly did keep the discovery channel afloat until along came the largest single money grosser that the discovery channel has ever witnessed. The deadliest catch.
The most popular and biggest earnings program that discovery has ever shown
Strangely itís about commercial fishermen, watched by millions all over the world. Why? Because itís something they know that they can enjoy experiencing from the comfort of there armchairs. Itís about money and the things that some people will do to earn that money. But itís also about a respect that these men have for there environment and there fellow human comrades.
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