DEFRA's 20 Year Vision

[barry luxton]

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Spot on! The rest is just work for civil servants (DEFRA) Their 20 year vision was conceived for the government to be seen by the greens to be doing something and to secure their jobs, they are experts at being seen to do something without doing any thing, except meddle and generally make a nuisance of themselves.

 

Stuff me, we been spending all this time looking at, replying, complaining about all these various public consultations, visions and whatever the goverment and defra have been sending out and at the end of the blo..dy day it's all for nothing. Like the bass mls, tope issue, etc, etc, nothing changes, boy are we learning. Someone else was complaining about mr bradshaw today where they say in his new job away from the fisheries he is 'passing the buck on some issue'. I think we have seen that before. So the old tv sit coms Yes Minister was more true to life than it thought it was. Also please come back Alan B'satard MP (Rick Mayel), he was rather good. More believable.

[Sharkbyte]

Hi HA

 

Use the search facility and historically you'll find many a vitriolic exchange of views between myself and Wurzel.

 

Having had the pleasure of meeting him and even fishing with him on a number of occasions now, I've found that we have far more in common than we have differences of opinion.

 

 

Just to add, I don't believe that the Bass tagging surveys I'm particularly familiar with, are worth the paper they are written on.

 

 

PS. We're still waiting for that Alaskan report Wurzel.

[barry luxton]

PS. We're still waiting for that Alaskan report Wurzel.

 

Don't forget the photo's. Don't be shy Wurzel.

 

[H.A.]

Oh good ... so he's moved to Alaska??????????

And taken his nets with 'im????????

 

[wurzel]

Oh good ... so he's moved to Alaska??????????

And taken his nets with 'im????????

 

 

Iwish! And I didn't need my nets, I could catch all I needed on me rod.

 

One thing I found in Alaska was reams of regulations for anglers, bag limits, assorted closed seasons, closed areas, some places were catch and release only, others fly only, each river or estuary had a different set of rules depending on what species were present, on a couple of the bigger rivers there were electronic fish counters and depending on the count regulated the anglers take for the season.

where as the commercial fisher men I met had no quota's or restrictions, one skipper of a large salmon purse seiner, similar to the crab boats on the Deadliest Catch told me that he would easily reach his target of a million dollars for his season and that his quota was "as much as the cannery could take" another, a young skipper of a long liner similar to mine fishing for halibut said he had no problem filling his boats fish hold and there was no quota restrictions, which surprised me as anglers are only allowed one halibut per trip.

There was no sign of enforcement yet the anglers seemed happy to comply to the rules, one time I was doing a bit of combat fishing(shoulder to shoulder with about 50 other anglers) on the river in Anchorage when a King salmon of about 30 lb showed up making it's way up stream every body was winding in and dads were telling their kids not to cast for it, the season for kings on that river had finished the day before.

There were a few places close to the city or towns mainly along the coast where the fishing could be a bit crowded but once I got inland a bit it seemed that I had the whole country let alone the rivers to myself.

 

Hello wyne

I did put a post on the course fishing forum, I tried to post a couple of pictures but they failed, I'm better with a rod than a computer I guess.(kept using to many obytes) I'll try again.

Me and the misses covered 2400 miles across Alaska, from Homer on the Kenai Peninsula up to Prudhoe Bay on the Arctic Ocean on a trail bike a lot of it travelling on dirt roads, we passed though 3 mountain ranges and crossed the Yukon river.

I had two light travel rods with me one spinning the other a fly rod and managed to fish a few hours most days catching several of two sorts of salmon silver and humpy , nothing big up to about 10 lb and further north arctic grayling on a dry fly. Other than a few places close to the coast we had some of the most beautiful rivers you can imagine to myself except for the bald and golden eagles, ospreys, bears, moose, caribou, musk ox, musk rats, beavers and prairie dogs, along the way we met and shared a few beers and a yarn with locals such as a couple of bear hunters, a trapper and his wife, gold miners and some Indian salmon wheel fishermen. It was one hell of a trip, that is if you like that sort of thing, cooking on a beach in Spain is not my cup of tea.

[glennk]

Were you on Holiday Wurzel or NFFO Business ?

[wurzel]

Were you on Holiday Wurzel or NFFO Business ?

 

Hello Glen,

 

Pahaps I should ask them to pay my expences.

 

I could have been looking into the future of the UK's angling scene.

[Sharkbyte]

Hello Glen,

 

Pahaps I should ask them to pay my expences.

 

I could have been looking into the future of the UK's angling scene.

 

 

A £49 flight to Portugal would both preserve NFFO funds and represent a more accurate forecast of what's in store.

[barry luxton]

A £49 flight to Portugal would both preserve NFFO funds and represent a more accurate forecast of what's in store.

 

Why would anyone want to go there, they don't cater for the rsa anymore, i suppose the men in suits do well though.

[barry luxton]

Actually there is a 'log-jam' of RSA issues that DEFRA is sitting on, waiting for the Minister to get his decision of the bass mls out of the way.

 

Now that the bass issue is out of the way Leon, what do you think these bas.... errrrr defra have got in line for the rsa to capitualte to next. Will it require months of negotiating first before they stick the knife in.