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Posted 25 November 2007 - 11:57 AM

Excellent article in the Herald.

Why you lot continue to argue the toss with the 'wallies' defies explanation.

Do you think commercial netsmen are going to change their minds and suddenly become responsible soles with consciences? Not likely.

Compromise is not an option.

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Good morning.
So if compromise is knot an option then what would you suggest?
Your reference to the collapse of the coal industry and the government of the days lost opportunity of investment to modernise the industry and therefore make it competitive again within an aggressive global market is a valid one.
Margaret Thatcher’s no compromise with the miners divided Britain and prematurely destroyed an industry that could have been improved and made more competitive.
She would knot listen to her own advisors never mined the miners because she wanted revenge for the 3 day week and the inevitable demise of Ted heath.
If you will not listen to people who have first hand experience of what is going on in there working area of the sea, and you dismiss there comments and thoughts on the back of glossy magazine articles that are aimed at people who want to use the same said opinions because they have no original opinions of there own, then so be it.
Regards.

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Posted 25 November 2007 - 05:33 PM

Unlike some of the preceding 'piffle', that information is of great interest.

Thanks 'FishingsFine'.

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Posted 25 November 2007 - 09:29 PM

Unlike some of the preceding 'piffle', that information is of great interest.

Thanks 'FishingsFine'.

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You still have knot enlightened us to what your alternative to any sort of compromise might be?

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Posted 26 November 2007 - 12:22 AM

Excellent article in the Herald.

Why you lot continue to argue the toss with the 'wallies' defies explanation.

Do you think commercial netsmen are going to change their minds and suddenly become responsible soles with consciences? Not likely.

Compromise is not an option.

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Joanna Blythman, the author of that, IMHO, joke of an article, is apparently not a biologist, a fisherwoman (Rsa or commercial), but is a restaurant critic with a regular, and apparently admired, column in the Herald! :D

Heres a nice piece where she raves about the turbot and salt cod served in some exclusive edinburgh restaurant:

Sunday Herald

‘Salt cod is one of those elusive savoury tastes and, teamed with a silky artichoke purée and a truffled foam, it made a sophisticated and unusual dish’


She does not say where they were sourced from though ;)


Did you enjoy reading those articles FF put up btw?

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Posted 26 November 2007 - 12:50 AM

Now imagine a situation where concernerned anglers team up with skippers like James West from the Fruitful Bough for the better good and visa versa. They say politics makes strange bedfellows but also what a powerful lobby it would also make?


It seems an obvious one to me fwiw.

If your a charter skipper you read the FN and other commercial stuff because its important to what you do. At the end of the day both RSA and commercials kill fish and are also dependant on good stocks. What other grouping has those same priorities? Sure as hell is NOT a prority for the green groups that seem to provide so much of the ammunition for RSA we see atm.

Its easy to point out the areas of conflict between RSA and commercials but if you know anything about the comercial sector at all then you know there are some pretty bitter conflicts there too at times; static vs mobile for instance and there are often no easy answers, but thankfully i have'nt seen too much of the real h8 stuff i now see stirred up by, imho essentially greens with an interest in angling, and out and out ignorant posters, who have zero knowledge of the subject but feel they have some kind of right to dictate other peoples lives. Fwiw i suspect the latter is due to our Imperial, the world is all red, upbringing. But hell, what do i know ...

Reality is that green groups. with insanely large budgets, and good connections to media and marketing are aiming for all fishermen- it just don't fit into their worldview.

Commercials/RSA both will be screwed imho.

For whatever thats worth .... :(

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Posted 26 November 2007 - 10:46 AM

Joanna Blythman, the author of that, IMHO, joke of an article, is apparently not a biologist, a fisherwoman (Rsa or commercial), but is a restaurant critic with a regular, and apparently admired, column in the Herald! :D


Chris


Morning Chris,

Please enlighten us ordinaries what exactly you found a joke within that article.

 Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.

 
New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.
 
Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.
 
Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.
 
new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.
 
Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because  they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are.. 


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Posted 26 November 2007 - 12:43 PM

...... almost wiping the tears from their eyes as they testified to the "heartbreak" of having to discard prime specimens .....

??????????????

Why waste your time talking with them?????

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