Which tip?

[Peter Waller]

After far too long I have bought myself a decent, Maver quiver tip. Bit of a new challenge for me. Read numerous books on the subject, none seem to agree! Any advice on good titles please. Anyway, immediate problem, which tip? Rod came with 1, 2 & 3 oz tips but so far I have yet to understand how this relates to practical angling. Tide flow and feeder weight I understand but there does seem to be a lot more to it than that. Any advice & help would be much appreciated. Float fishing is just so easy in comparison, or so it seems! Whole new world is this feeder fishing lark.

[Steve Walker]

Choose the tip appropriate to the amount of tension you will have in the line - big feeder, strong flow, more tension, heavier tip. You don't want it bent right over.

[Phone]

Peter,

 

UglyStik (Tiger) has some pretty good articles if you google. However, the UglyStik Tiger is quite the opposite from Steve W's suggestion.

 

I believe you are correct. Fishing in general is somewhat a lark.

 

But we love it!!

 

Phone

[Steve Walker]

Phone, he's got a rod, it's a quivertip rod which comes with several push-in solid tips of different stiffness. The tips are for bite detection, not really forming part of the action of the rod.

 

Like this;

 

 

The reason they come with multiple tips is that you want the tip as fine and soft as possible for bite detection, but if the line is under tension from flow, it will pull it right round making it hard to see movement.

 

On a river, you fish it with the rod in the air to keep as much of the line out of the flow as you can;

 

 

On a stillwater, you have the rod parallel to the ground and parallel to the bank, and maybe use a target board to see the slightest twitch, like this;

 

[Peter Waller]

Thanks folks, useful. Any more please?

[Tigger]

I don't think there is any more Peter, Steve's covered it really.

 

The only other thing I can think of is the material that the tip is made of, generally the carbon tips are used for rivers,especially when upstream legering due to the fact that they're stiffer and spring back harder showing drop backs better.

Glass tips are generally used for still waters as they're a softer material....you must know that surely Peter?

[STUART WHITING]

I don't think there is any more Peter, Steve's covered it really.

 

The only other thing I can think of is the material that the tip is made of, generally the carbon tips are used for rivers,especially when upstream legering due to the fact that they're stiffer and spring back harder showing drop backs better.

Glass tips are generally used for still waters as they're a softer material....you must know that surely Peter?

Under normal circumstances I totally agree with what you say here but as a roach specialist I still will often use a very fine glass tips on rivers and even for upstream ledgering,

I know that Steve Burke always preferred to use carbon for rivers but I'll explain why I still like the glass,

 

Basically all of my ledger rigs for river roach consist of just a few AAA shot on the line and very rarely anything else, there is barely just enough weight to hold bottom and when upstream ledgering with bread it can be quite often for the baited rig to occasionally dislodge on the river bed and slowly work its way through yer swim, it could now be straight out directly in front of you and after a few minutes now end up a little down stream,

 

I personally don't mind this slight movement in the rig as I believe this to be natural bait movement to a fish that intends to take a bait,

In reality this is actually no different to stret pegging,

I like to have the use of the fine glass tip at all times as in the past I've used carbon and have clearly seen the resistance from tacking fish on a carbon tip and become spooked, yes carbon does work at times but I'd say is only really limited to upstream work but that is about all, me personally I'd still prefer to use the glass as it covers a bigger gap of useage and because the tips are generally soft wary fish hardly feel any resistance until it's to late

 

I'd perhaps go to the extent on using quite strong carbon tips if I was using large ground bait feeders for bream on the Thames for example

[Peter Waller]

Tigger, I'm an absolute novice when it comes to feeder fishing. Far too many years as a few tricks pony I'm afraid. Pike fishing has collapsed on the Broads and bream bashing is just too easy! Float fishing has become my great love but feeder fishing clearly has possibilities that are worth mastering.

 

Stuart, enlightening stuff, thank you, looking forward to trying what you are preaching. The basics of feeder fishing are pretty obvious but the finesse and detail is what I'm after.

[STUART WHITING]

Tigger, I'm an absolute novice when it comes to feeder fishing. Far too many years as a few tricks pony I'm afraid. Pike fishing has collapsed on the Broads and bream bashing is just too easy! Float fishing has become my great love but feeder fishing clearly has possibilities that are worth mastering.

 

Stuart, enlightening stuff, thank you, looking forward to trying what you are preaching. The basics of feeder fishing are pretty obvious but the finesse and detail is what I'm after.

Hope you can learn a few tips Peter, remember that practice makes perfect and in many cases it's all trial and error with the particular gear that is being used

[Peter Waller]

Stuart, just curious, you mention using split shot, do you nip it directly to your main line or in the form of a link leger? For me this looks to be a technique well worth exploring.