I thought jail was a pinishment

[Andrew]

Oh yes it looks like it.

 

PUNISHMENT MY ARSE

 

 

[Norm B]

Oh yes it looks like it.

 

PUNISHMENT MY ARSE

A waste of my taxes, give them hard labour or sweeping the streets in pink overalls.

[Steve Walker]

I still wouldn't want to be locked up there!

 

It's for category C prisoners, so people who won't be in for a very long time and didn't commit particularly heinous crimes. Punishment is one part of the justice system, and I don't think it should be ignored, but in terms of public safety, reducing reoffending has to be the priority. We can't lock every criminal up forever, and our prison population is already too big and too expensive.

[Phone]

Steve,

 

You're not trying to make sense out of this are you? Of course you are correct. I don't think "hard penal labour" exists in Great Britian since WWII.

 

We kinda liked this - - """"Imprisonment with hard labour was first introduced into English law with the Criminal Law Act 1776 (6 Geo III c 43),^[2] also known as the "Hulks Act", which authorized prisoners being put to work on improving the navigation of the River Thames in lieu of transportation to the North American colonies, which had become impossible due to the American Revolutionary War.""""" - - - - (WIKI)

 

Phone

[corydoras]

Steve,

 

You're not trying to make sense out of this are you? Of course you are correct. I don't think "hard penal labour" exists in Great Britian since WWII.

 

We kinda liked this - - """"Imprisonment with hard labour was first introduced into English law with the Criminal Law Act 1776 (6 Geo III c 43),^[2] also known as the "Hulks Act", which authorized prisoners being put to work on improving the navigation of the River Thames in lieu of transportation to the North American colonies, which had become impossible due to the American Revolutionary War.""""" - - - - (WIKI)

 

Phone

[Norm B]

I still wouldn't want to be locked up there!

 

It's for category C prisoners, so people who won't be in for a very long time and didn't commit particularly heinous crimes. Punishment is one part of the justice system, and I don't think it should be ignored, but in terms of public safety, reducing reoffending has to be the priority. We can't lock every criminal up forever, and our prison population is already too big and too expensive.

Bring back hanging, think of the money saved by not keeping lifers.

[chesters1]

Bring back hanging, think of the money saved by not keeping lifers.

Think of the millions in recompense to the families when we find out later we hung innocent people!

[Ken L]

Bring back hanging, think of the money saved by not keeping lifers.

Fair enough! Lets bring back national service as well.

Lets go one step further and apply both to over 65's only.

Afterall, they're the only people that want to see eitner

[corydoras]

Bring back hanging, think of the money saved by not keeping lifers.

And we'll make you do the hanging. And before you say that you'd do it with pleasure, are you sure you could?

 

Have you ever seen a person die? Have you ever smelt someone die a violent death, have you ever spend sleepless nights because you can still smell the stench in your nostrils? I used to think like you, but an Australian friend, an ex squadide who wore a Blue |Beret in Bosnia persuaded me differently. He had to shot and kill quite a few men in Bosnia because if he didn't they would have shot him.

 

Afterwards he could not settle back home in Australia so he came here for a kind of extended holiday and ended up staying. That's how I met him. One night we were discussing the very same topic that this thread is about and I said much the same as you have posted. He laughed at me and told me that I didn't have a clue what I was talking I was talking about. To this day my friend cannot abide the smell of roast pork, or eat a bacon sandwich because the smell of either reminds him of the smell of burning human corpses.

 

"It is said to be a deterrent. I cannot agree. There have been murders since the beginning of time, and we shall go on looking for deterrents until the end of time. If death were a deterrent, I might be expected to know. It is I who have faced them last, young men and girls, working men, grandmothers. I have been amazed to see the courage with which they take that walk into the unknown. It did not deter them then, and it had not deterred them when they committed what they were convicted for. All the men and women whom I have faced at that final moment convince me that in what I have done I have not prevented a single murder"

 

Albert Pierrepoint

[barry luxton]

corydoras, on 03 Mar 2017 - 18:53, said:

And we'll make you do the hanging. And before you say that you'd do it with pleasure, are you sure you could?

 

Have you ever seen a person die? Have you ever smelt someone die a violent death, have you ever spend sleepless nights because you can still smell the stench in your nostrils? I used to think like you, but an Australian friend, an ex squadide who wore a Blue |Beret in Bosnia persuaded me differently. He had to shot and kill quite a few men in Bosnia because if he didn't they would have shot him.

 

Afterwards he could not settle back home in Australia so he came here for a kind of extended holiday and ended up staying. That's how I met him. One night we were discussing the very same topic that this thread is about and I said much the same as you have posted. He laughed at me and told me that I didn't have a clue what I was talking I was talking about. To this day my friend cannot abide the smell of roast pork, or eat a bacon sandwich because the smell of either reminds him of the smell of burning human corpses.

 

"It is said to be a deterrent. I cannot agree. There have been murders since the beginning of time, and we shall go on looking for deterrents until the end of time. If death were a deterrent, I might be expected to know. It is I who have faced them last, young men and girls, working men, grandmothers. I have been amazed to see the courage with which they take that walk into the unknown. It did not deter them then, and it had not deterred them when they committed what they were convicted for. All the men and women whom I have faced at that final moment convince me that in what I have done I have not prevented a single murder"

 

Albert Pierrepoint

 

your certainly a leftie liberal then.

 

Fair enough! Lets bring back national service as well.

Lets go one step further and apply both to over 65's only.

Afterall, they're the only people that want to see eitner

 

Your certainly a leftie liberal then.