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#21 barry luxton

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 09:14 AM

Phone, on 28 Aug 2017 - 05:47, said:

gozzer,

 

I wanted to come back to this for a moment.  Perhaps I should change my choice of words (ferrous).  Today, hooks are manufactured from either high-carbon steel, steel alloyed with vanadium or stainless steel (stainless is horrible).  Most brands produce excellent products that usually include some sort of rust protection.  It is intended to dramatically lengthen the "good" fishing time of the hook.  BAD FOR THE FISH.

 

 

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Well done to you phone for speaking about reality. Any deep hooked fish, in particular they start bleeding from the gills will DIE. End of. Most popular hooks in the u k are kamazan or equivalent and they don't rust so quick in sea or freshwater in any event.  

 

In the u k our illustrious ANGLING TRUST, not only recommends cutting the line close as possible to the fish and send it back, they insist on it. The angling trust have worked on the common eel ban, tope ban and now bass ban for anglers.

 

Sending them back into the food chain with hooks attached is not only wasteful but what happens when the next fish or animal eats the dying fish? 

 

Out of sight and out of mind.


Edited by barry luxton, 01 September 2017 - 10:49 AM.

 Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.

 
New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.
 
Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.
 
Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.
 
new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.
 
Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because  they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are.. 


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 04:25 PM

pssssttttt,

 

know what we do with the fish we intend to take home for the table phone, yup we cut the gill to bleed out the fish as it dies quickly , saves taking home filleted flesh that looks like a sanitary towel.

 

Ain't reality and truth shocking.


 Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.

 
New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.
 
Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.
 
Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.
 
new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.
 
Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because  they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are.. 


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Posted 18 September 2017 - 09:26 AM

Chesters,your spot on, i thought i had actually brought one intended for left hand use! Had to throw it away in the end, just couldn't get on with it.



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Posted 21 September 2017 - 10:08 PM

Martin56,

 

Catching up

 

VMC still makes a crystal forged bronze hook (size 22 and up).

 

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Ohh they are a spade end hook (edit)


Edited by Phone, 21 September 2017 - 10:09 PM.


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 10:44 PM

I am not a metallurgist - why would a forged hook be any more or less likely to rust than a hook of the same alloy made by any other method?

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:46 PM

I've caught a lot of fish with hooks in them and I#'ve caught lines with hooks attached which have clearly been in the water some time.  deep hooking usually equals dead fish.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:55 PM

I am not a metallurgist - why would a forged hook be any more or less likely to rust than a hook of the same alloy made by any other method?

 

I don't think it's that it's more likely to rust Steve, just that forged hooks are usually heavier gauge and will take longer to break down.

 

I also think we should define 'deep hooked', to me it usually means, out of sight. 

 

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:15 PM

It usually means 4" perch to me lol
I actually caught one once hooking a maggot hanging out of the mouth of a perch with several maggots in its mouth ,it obviously refused to let go no matter what happened

Edited by chesters1, 02 October 2017 - 03:18 PM.

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