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#1 Chris Plumb

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 11:47 AM

Interesting article on the BBC suggesting they might be a separate sub-species....
 
 
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Posted 02 February 2018 - 02:49 PM

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I would think there would be no reason to doubt they are a distinct sub-species.  They certainly meet all the scientific criteria.

 

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 01:18 AM

Maybe John West  are looking for an opportunity to charge an extra Quid a tin for "Chalk Stream" Salmon"??

 

Interesting article on the BBC suggesting they might be a separate sub-species....
 
 
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Can anyone actually taste the difference between Atlantic & Pacific?? (or indeed Farmed)

 

Salmon is Salmon - innit. (Fresh of course - tinned not quite the same lol)

 

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 01:42 PM

Atlantic salmon and the Pacific salmons certainly taste different. They're different species. The farmed Atlantic salmon Sainsburys sell is ~15% fat. The wild Pacific salmon they sell is sockeye (Oncorhynchus nerka) and is ~10% fat. Makes a big difference to the taste and texture (and sadly the calories!).



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Posted 05 February 2018 - 05:28 PM

Steve,

 

We have several "salmon". (From Google) "The upriver salmon migration is one of nature's most exciting dramas. But to the five species of Pacific salmon (chinook, chum, coho, pink, and sockeye), it is a long, strenuous, desperate race against time, with every obstacle taking its toll."

 

Now, from Phone (a much more reliable source).  Salmon fry return to the sea tail first.

 

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Edit:  We also have some "land-locked" salmon. I forget what they are called


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:11 AM

Indeed, multiple species. I wouldn't agree that "salmon is salmon" at all.



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 03:03 PM

Indeed, multiple species. I wouldn't agree that "salmon is salmon" at all.

Absolutely        We caught and brought back a load of chinook (King) and coho (silver salmon) from a trip to British Columbia - greatly superior to "Wild Alaskan" (Sockeye aka Red) which is in turn superior to dog (chum) and pink (humpback) salmon.        I have also caught my share of Hampshire Avon  salmon, and while I can't honestly say there is a marked difference in taste from wild salmon I have caught in Scotland and Ireland, all three are vastly superior to farmed salmon for the reasons Steve stated earlier in this thread.

 

The outfit we went with to BC specialised in trimming, freezing and packing for air travel the thick end of a hundredweight of fish per person - they even held it in cold store until our return flight. Dunno if they are still in business


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Posted 23 February 2018 - 06:04 PM

Steve,
 
We have several "salmon". (From Google) "The upriver salmon migration is one of nature's most exciting dramas. But to the five species of Pacific salmon (chinook, chum, coho, pink, and sockeye), it is a long, strenuous, desperate race against time, with every obstacle taking its toll."
 
Now, from Phone (a much more reliable source).  Salmon fry return to the sea tail first.
 
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Edit:  We also have some "land-locked" salmon. I forget what they are called

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 09:38 PM

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 11:21 PM

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness  it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

 

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