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#11 corydoras

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 06:30 PM

:bleh: That's Mrs May bunging another bribe to the EU.  :yucky:

How is it a bribe?


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Posted 22 March 2018 - 06:48 PM

At one time pretty much the only ink used to print bank notes was sold by the first company i worked for shuck mclean .

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 07:13 PM

How is it a bribe?

:bleh: Giving them our money to grease a few palms for a smoother brexit.  She says it'll be cheaper but we wont get the tax and NI our workers would pay, we won't get the corporation tax if they were made here and it could put British jobs at risk.  :bones: 



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Posted 22 March 2018 - 07:32 PM

Patriotism is a dirty word in the British civil service and there are huge numbers of pampered middle class Champaign Socialists who go directly from university to relatively senior positions without ever having been exposed to a real job or indeed the day to day reality of working at the front line of the departments that they run.

They are almost exclusively pro-Europeans and look down upon those who rejected the EU with utter distain.

These are the people who tendered the contract.

These are the people who will have made this short sighted and insular decision that takes no account of the wider political landscape, the creation of and securing of British jobs that a UK contract would have represented, the costs of paying benefits to those not employed by a British printer or the public perception of government arising from a decision like this.

The be honest, I'd be surprised if this even got discussed with an elected politician other than arch remainer Amber Rudd.


Edited by Ken L, 22 March 2018 - 07:33 PM.

Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel. Barbel. Bleak. Dace.
Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.
Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima.  Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.
Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.
Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub. 
Species caught in 2014: Striped catfish. Pacu. Giant gourami. Clown knife fish. Rohu. Siamese carp. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Roach. Bream. Perch. Rainbow trout. Chub. Common Carp, Ide. Brown Trout. Barbel. Mekong catfish. Jullien's golden carp. Alligator gar. Java barb.
Species caught in 2013: Mangrove Jack. Barramundi. Blubberlip snapper. Baracouda. Malabar grouper. Yellowfin Trevally. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Roach. Pike. European Eel. Bleak.
Species caught in 2012: Northern whiting. Moray eel. Barramundi. Snakehead murrel. Silver razorbelly minnow. Deccan Mahseer. Malabar mystus. Deccan rita. Spotted Malabar Grouper. Mangrove Jack. Indian sea catfish. Brown Trout. Chub. Perch. Roach. Rudd.
Species caught in 2011: Indian sea catfish. Sardine. Barramundi. Mangrove Jack. Deccan Mahseer. Record Humpbacked Mahseer. Yellow Fin Trevelly. Giant Trevelly. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Pike. Atlantic salmon. Dace. Minnow. Roach. Gudgeon. 
Species caught in 2010: Barramundi. Giant Trevelly. Moray eel. Indian sea catfish. Mangrove Jack. Deccan Mahseer. Humpback Mahseer. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Bass. Pike. 
Species caught in 2009: Chub. Perch. Pike. Pacu. Thai Striped Catfish. 
Species caught in 2008: Barramundi. p-i-k-e-y sea bream. Indian sea catfish. Guitarfish. Mangrove Jack. Mahseer. Squid (Not strictly a fish but it took a lure !). Emperor Sweetlip. Black Spot Snapper. Moray eel. Spangled Emperor. Bluecheek silver grunt. Yellow striped emperor. Vanikoro sweeper. Pike. Perch. Brown trout. Chub. Atlantic salmon.

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 07:34 PM

:bleh: Giving them our money to grease a few palms for a smoother brexit.  She says it'll be cheaper but we wont get the tax and NI our workers would pay, we won't get the corporation tax if they were made here and it could put British jobs at risk.  :bones:

LOL I love all you conspiracy theory nutters. How about we charge evryone who voted Leave a premium when they next renew their passports then De La Rue can keep their contract.


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Posted 22 March 2018 - 08:43 PM

Patriotism is a dirty word in the British civil service and there are huge numbers of pampered middle class Champaign Socialists who go directly from university to relatively senior positions without ever having been exposed to a real job or indeed the day to day reality of working at the front line of the departments that they run.

They are almost exclusively pro-Europeans and look down upon those who rejected the EU with utter distain.

These are the people who tendered the contract.

These are the people who will have made this short sighted and insular decision that takes no account of the wider political landscape, the creation of and securing of British jobs that a UK contract would have represented, the costs of paying benefits to those not employed by a British printer or the public perception of government arising from a decision like this.

The be honest, I'd be surprised if this even got discussed with an elected politician other than arch remainer Amber Rudd.

LOL.

 

Gemalto is a Dutch company and the world leader in secure document printing. If we are so good why isn't it a British firm in this position?


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Posted 22 March 2018 - 08:51 PM

So would it have been better to pay 50M, 100M, 200M (depends who you listen to) so that they could be printed in UK?

I don't think anyone would have cared that much if it wasn't for all of the hype and gloating (see Daily Express) when it was announced.

Personally I'm not bothered either way, I don't care what colour my passport is. I just enjoyed the irony and let's not forget, there was never any need to change the colour in the first place, you could have kept your blue passport.


Edited by Sportsman, 22 March 2018 - 08:52 PM.

Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 09:20 PM

LOL.

 

Gemalto is a Dutch company and the world leader in secure document printing. If we are so good why isn't it a British firm in this position?

 

Gemalto are very good at what they do. So are De La Rue. My point was that there is a wider context to these decisions. 


Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel. Barbel. Bleak. Dace.
Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.
Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima.  Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.
Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.
Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub. 
Species caught in 2014: Striped catfish. Pacu. Giant gourami. Clown knife fish. Rohu. Siamese carp. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Roach. Bream. Perch. Rainbow trout. Chub. Common Carp, Ide. Brown Trout. Barbel. Mekong catfish. Jullien's golden carp. Alligator gar. Java barb.
Species caught in 2013: Mangrove Jack. Barramundi. Blubberlip snapper. Baracouda. Malabar grouper. Yellowfin Trevally. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Roach. Pike. European Eel. Bleak.
Species caught in 2012: Northern whiting. Moray eel. Barramundi. Snakehead murrel. Silver razorbelly minnow. Deccan Mahseer. Malabar mystus. Deccan rita. Spotted Malabar Grouper. Mangrove Jack. Indian sea catfish. Brown Trout. Chub. Perch. Roach. Rudd.
Species caught in 2011: Indian sea catfish. Sardine. Barramundi. Mangrove Jack. Deccan Mahseer. Record Humpbacked Mahseer. Yellow Fin Trevelly. Giant Trevelly. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Pike. Atlantic salmon. Dace. Minnow. Roach. Gudgeon. 
Species caught in 2010: Barramundi. Giant Trevelly. Moray eel. Indian sea catfish. Mangrove Jack. Deccan Mahseer. Humpback Mahseer. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Bass. Pike. 
Species caught in 2009: Chub. Perch. Pike. Pacu. Thai Striped Catfish. 
Species caught in 2008: Barramundi. p-i-k-e-y sea bream. Indian sea catfish. Guitarfish. Mangrove Jack. Mahseer. Squid (Not strictly a fish but it took a lure !). Emperor Sweetlip. Black Spot Snapper. Moray eel. Spangled Emperor. Bluecheek silver grunt. Yellow striped emperor. Vanikoro sweeper. Pike. Perch. Brown trout. Chub. Atlantic salmon.

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 10:44 PM

Gemalto are very good at what they do. So are De La Rue. My point was that there is a wider context to these decisions. 

Wait until we are trading under WTO. I hope you can toch your toes and have shares in KY. ;-)


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Posted 23 March 2018 - 12:55 AM

Patriotism is a dirty word in the British civil service and there are huge numbers of pampered middle class Champaign Socialists who go directly from university to relatively senior positions without ever having been exposed to a real job or indeed the day to day reality of working at the front line of the departments that they run.

They are almost exclusively pro-Europeans and look down upon those who rejected the EU with utter distain.

These are the people who tendered the contract.

These are the people who will have made this short sighted and insular decision that takes no account of the wider political landscape, the creation of and securing of British jobs that a UK contract would have represented, the costs of paying benefits to those not employed by a British printer or the public perception of government arising from a decision like this.

The be honest, I'd be surprised if this even got discussed with an elected politician other than arch remainer Amber Rudd.

One assumes that the documents will not be printed at the Gemalto UK facility, not twenty miles fom me in Sedgensworth where they already make UK Driving Licences and other documents for the DVLA, does one not?


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