UK Coarse Fishing Chat http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php Wed, 14 May 2008 00:44:42 +0100 15 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=189743
When fishing with a worm on the hook, and targeting perch, should you wait longer to strike than when fishing for smaller species or smaller specimens? How long?

Also, what size hook, what type of worm and what float should you use to target the larger perch? Is a waggler or stick float better for the job or are the traditional style perch floats still available and the way to go?

Any advice is much appreciated. I've caught hundreds of fish on maggot since I began angling only nine months ago but I've yet to spend much time with worm as a bait and have thus never caught a thing on it...

'Salutes to the mighty sergeant'.]]> tiddlertamer tiddlertamer Tue, 13 May 2008 23:44:45 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 23:44:45 +0100 189743 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=189223
I find it really hard to fing the right lake for me. I mean I got the tackle to catch an easy double digit fish. Although I'm only eleven I caught a few nice fish in CORNWALL on holiday. But I can't find a decent lake anywhere nere Basingstoke. In the big lakes you can get 30lb fish but in the little ones only annoying Roach and Poisenous Zander or if our lucky a 5lb Carp.

I found a nice lake with beautiful surrondings and I could get a nice double digit fish my type but after 6 hours my alarm didn't go off once while my dad was fishing on the top he caught 3 about 5lb carp and my dads friend a 9lb while I was left in shame. To make matters worse it was a sunny day I know fish are lazy on sunny days but I was legering on the other side of the lake in the shadows.

If anyone agress that lakes are annoying for the right size fish please reply and give me your view.

Dan.

Ps. My dad's biggest fish is a 19lb (he does not go that oftesn) and my dads friend is a 32.25lb. Infact we did poor!]]> Lik It Tongue jedibond Tue, 13 May 2008 21:27:57 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 23:04:32 +0100 189223 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=189222
Can anybody please help shed some light on this as i'm quite baffled.

I would go to a local fishing shop but dont find they are all to helpful at the best of times.

thanks ]]> LoonzY John S Tue, 13 May 2008 21:02:21 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 21:18:37 +0100 189222 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=188522 Lately my friend caught a Zander but we didn't know how to get the hook out. Sadly we cut the line and HAD to leave the hook in. I need help to prevent this.
Please help me buy giving me the secerate to discorging a Zander or any other fish.
Thank you.
Dan.]]> Lik It Tongue Newt Tue, 13 May 2008 17:10:46 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 22:47:51 +0100 188522 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=188521
http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/News/bob_nudd_dvd.html]]> Elton Peter Sharpe Tue, 13 May 2008 17:08:06 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 19:14:07 +0100 188521 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=188417 I need lots of help for finding a fishing lake. One thats open in the closing season. One that you don't need to purchase a fishing lisence and is under about £15 to fish per rod. And thats near Basingstoke or about half an hour away.
Thank you all so much.
Dan]]> Lik It Tongue ModelCitizen Tue, 13 May 2008 16:47:16 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 22:04:48 +0100 188417 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=188042
I just bought one of these reels on eBay, and I'd like to give it a good clean and lube. It's in great condition, runs quite well with no wobble, but it does want a little TLC.

I can't disassemble it to service it. When I remove the large silver screw in the centre of the back, I'd expect it to come apart, but the spool stays put. Should I be doing something else to dismantle it?

Also, do you have any general 'must do' tips for servicing a reel like this? I'm reasonably good at ruining mechanical objects, but feel this should be a DIY job.

Many thanks!

Mike.]]> MikeT chesters1 Tue, 13 May 2008 14:29:25 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 15:39:46 +0100 188042 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=187846
The water temps waver around 20 degrees and some of the weed in the pond is not looking very healthy, dying. The margins look odd, the pond is clay lined but the water colour is not brown but murky, maybe acid problem.

The E.A are looking into it and say the oxygen level is low. Could it be the weed dying and taking the oxygen / ammonia problem? Any thoughts? (Tench, crucian carp, bream unaffected so far).]]> Jeffwill chesters1 Tue, 13 May 2008 13:47:02 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 14:58:22 +0100 187846 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=187842
Thanks.]]> fruitloopy Alan Stubbs Tue, 13 May 2008 12:16:14 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 13:49:22 +0100 187842 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=187576
You can catch in the day if it is cloudy and rainy, or if they are really on the feed, but so far this season they don't seem to feeding too well yet, I have only caught 5 Tench this year compared to nearly 50 this time last year. I know the weather was better in April last year, the other thing is they seem to bubble up for a bit and then off they go, when normally if they are bubbling up you will catch a couple.

Has anyone else noticed changes in there Tench fishing on their local waters? Let me know what you think cheers.
Tight lines]]> leroyyid BUDGIE Tue, 13 May 2008 11:43:14 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 17:42:06 +0100 187576 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=187495
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]]> Elton BUDGIE Tue, 13 May 2008 10:05:06 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 17:13:59 +0100 187495 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=187410
The past few weeks i have been dumping in a hand full of feed near it and monitoring what food it prefers, hopefully to use as hook baits for its big green cousins in my local lake

it seems to go for cubes of crab sticks which i mentioned using as bait in another thread, so hopefully if i can get a day off next week i will put some of my findings into practice


]]> mike1234 BoozleBear Tue, 13 May 2008 09:35:38 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 15:19:22 +0100 187410 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=187309 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/Wingham...=40#entry927957 (post 60) Tim Barnes, the owner of Invicta Tackle and a Wingham syndicate member, has specially bought in some of the long banksticks I highly recommend. IMO they're far and away the best on the market for all gravel pits, not just Wingham. Tim was going to deliver them on Friday but has now got to be in Ireland.

You can still order them from Tim, and I'll pick them up on Friday and bring them over Saturday morning. I'm also making up some long bobbins. I'll try to remember to leave these plus my existing bobbins and banksticks in the clubhouse on Thursday.]]> Steve Burke BUDGIE Tue, 13 May 2008 09:19:04 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:38:59 +0100 187309 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=187301 Steve Burke Steve Burke Tue, 13 May 2008 08:51:44 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 08:51:44 +0100 187301 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=186165

To my left by the old toy factory I saw not one but numerous so called anglers fishing the river, it was a brief glance but not mistaking more than one guy with fishing rods and where are the river cops when you need them eh?

What makes my blood boil is seeing such blatent idiot so called anglers who obviously wont have a rod licence, fishing permit or a damn clue. I can hear you say 'oh but they didnt know' but come on guys they havent got a clue and nor have the so called river cops. If they get stopped what are the chances of them having any idea about fishing and the law, it makes me sick.

How come there allowed to get away with it eh, where are the authorities when they are needed eh, I guess this sort of crap is going on all over the country night and day and there is no one to stop them is there?

With the real season on it's way I'm thinking about renewing my club memberships and rod licence as I have done for decades, to me it's an exciting time of year but with every year that passes I'm getting more bitter about doing so, why should honest anglers like us pay loads of money for something that other simply take away from us, and in some cases have the damn front to walk off with the fish too?
Why should I be bothered about renewing my licence when I see t*ssers get away with it all over the country and where the hell are the authorities when there needed most eh?
I bet they will be out in force the first day of the season, nicking the odd genuine angler who has forgotten to take his licence with him for the first time in twenty years, slapping him slilly with a hefty fine and a pair of pink fur lined handcuffs eh.

I know a few anglers get prosecuted for not having rod licences but were closing our eyes to the vast numbers of dodgy illegal anglers that dont give a *uck. I wonder how many are fishing right now as I get hotter under the collar?

When are we ever, or maybe just me going to feel safe to return to a river knowing that everyone there are members and have someone to call when we need help cos we dont get bugger all for out licence money mates but a guy in a bullet proof vest with his pink fur lined cuffs ready for some poor kid......

arggghhhhhh!!!]]> hermes BUDGIE Mon, 12 May 2008 21:47:20 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 17:26:49 +0100 186165 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=184613
...when should and when shouldn't you use ground bait?

I fishing a stretch of cannal that holds the usual suspects, tench, rub, roach etc. I tend to only fish using a waggle close of near the bottom, unless I see signs of movement on the top.

The area of canal I fish (neath canal, south wales), is in areas weeding with patches of open water and lilly pads.



Thank you all in advance.

Kelvin]]> kelvindavies11 kelvindavies11 Mon, 12 May 2008 14:47:53 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 08:21:37 +0100 184613 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=184541
Does Peterborough have a canal? I have looked up on UK Canal Maps and it lists the River Nene but I would like to know if some parts can be fished in the close season.

If not the Nene is there somewhere else close by I can go to?

Thanks.]]> fruitloopy fruitloopy Mon, 12 May 2008 14:12:32 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 09:19:27 +0100 184541 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=184371
There is a party of 4 or 5 of them, all keen fly fishermen. They are fishing a stretch of water that is too coloured for fly fishing, so some of them aren't bothering. The others are begrudgingly fishing with spinners and have a small amount of success.

They talk amongst themselves moaning that there's no 'art' to spinner fishing and that catching on a spinner just isn't the same as the fly.

The next day it's a similar story although visibilty has improved a touch, fly fishing would be unlikely to produce as many bites. Another friend of theirs, nicknamed Metal Mikey, turns up and flicks a spinner into areas a fly couldn't reach, with pinpoint accuracy, between snags, through small gaps in overhanging branches etc, and takes 14 fish in one session. Charles (the author) is pretty awestruck by this fish-magnet, mainly by just how well he does it (as well of course as the sheer amount of fish he caught).

Charles then claims what he saw that day (rightly so) is just as much of an 'art' as fly fishing.


Casting aside the 'is it art' question which would be more of a rambling debate than anything else, here is my main question...

Can one style of fishing really be more of an 'art' than another?

Having not fly fished myself I'm not really qualified to comment, however I do feel that using a spinner well has just as much merit to it as catching a fish with a well cast fly. You have to think about which style / colour / weight / size etc of lure to use, where to place it, the speed and the method of retrieve - just as you would with a fly. So why is fly fishing seen as more of an art?

Fly-fishing IMHO has been romanticised over the years and perhaps that's what the difference is?

Over to you lot for your opinion.....

Cheers

Simon]]> BoozleBear BUDGIE Mon, 12 May 2008 13:23:12 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:34:59 +0100 184371 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=184261
I recently went to a free water in Peterborough and, as I am used to commercials where there is not much disturbance from other people I wasnt used to what I had to deal with. This place is open to the general public as it is just a public area with 5 fishable ponds.

The conditions were tough anyway because of the weather but I know there are some good size tench and possibly some carp in there as well. It beats sitting at home anyway!

I had spotted what looked like possibly a ghost carp and a mirror carp moving from area to area really slowly. The water was very clear and not very deep at only 3 feet. These guys were drifting around with their fins out of the water.
There was no one else about, even at 2pm when I was following these carp around and looking for a good spot to cast to without spooking them and then wait for them to find my bait. I knew they weren’t feeding as it was too hot but I hoped that a bait in their face would change their minds.

I found a good spot where I have to lay flat against the bank to make sure I was not skylined and hidden. I knew they would return to this spot in front of me so I cast out a fishmeal pellet which I had caught two tench on in the morning and waited.

The carp were about 20 feet away to my left but slowly drifting towards my bait. It seemed like they were moving at 1 inch per month! They were slowly getting closer and now I’m sure they can smell it…closer still, only three feet away…a bit more…come on!!

A sudden noise behind me…”ANY LUCK MATE?”

This t**ser with a barrow full of fishing gear stood behind me completely skylined then said “Oh look…there’s a ghost carp over there!” he shouted. “Yes there was, wasn’t there” I said as the pair of carp swam quickly away from us.

I moved down the bank a bit to try the same tactic, the other angler had gone way over to my right and was starting to setup so I thought I must be safe.
This new spot was even better now, I was sitting flat against the steep bank to stay hidden and I could see 3 or 4 tench and carp all within 2 feet of my bait and getting closer.

Closer still…one of them looks interested…he’s moving towards it…

“HAVE YOU CAUGHT ANYTHING?” Says another skylined, loud tw*t behind me.

“Oh look there’s some quite big ones there!” Pointing his chubby finger towards my swim.

“Yes there was!” I said in a less than pleasant voice. “Would you mind bending down please? No, don’t bother, it’s too late now” I said as the whole collection of ‘Big ones’ swam away. Skylined loud tw*t left to join his ‘Any luck mate’ t**ser down the bank.

This happened twice more. At least the other two times weren’t from anglers.

What annoys me is that this behaviour is from anglers and not from the general public, they should really know better shouldn’t they?
When I was young I was taught to keep quite, never fish in another anglers swim, never jump around on the bank, dont disturb other anglers and dont skyline yourself.
The general public I can forgive because they dont really know any better but are these simple matters of etiquette not taught or observed anymore? I am not a grumpy old bugger but when you've spent an hour sitting on your numb backside getting more and more excited as the fish get closer and closer...then some idiot goes and ruins your whole afternoons work, then I think I may have a reason to be pee'd off!

Cant we run a "Good Manners" campaign?]]> fruitloopy BUDGIE Mon, 12 May 2008 12:40:08 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 17:05:34 +0100 184261 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=184185 )

Isn't this weather wonderful? After the longest winter I can remember, it's such a joy to feel the sun and smell the rapeseed and hawthorn blossom. It's the perfect time of year for being by the stream as it comes back to life again, water clearing, new streamer weed starting to emerge, and fish moving onto the fast, gravelly shallows looking for food, oxygen and warmth. The stream has got that summer 'weirpool' smell, and because the level is back to normal, it gurgles and tumbles over the sills and riffles.

I only had a couple of hours yesterday evening following a nice non-fishing day in the Cotswolds, but the weather was so pleasant I decided to spend the rest of the day at my favourite stream. It was the kind of day where there's no need to rush, even though I didn't arrive until 7pm. After saying hello to the sheep I looked over to the stream, and what did I see?

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Mayflies!

Dozens and dozens of mayflies doing their vertical dance over the river bank, fluttering up and then spreading their wings and tails and floating down again, over and over. What a fantastic sight!

I tackled up my little 6'6" #2 rod with a dry mayfly (what else?) and wandered downstream looking for rises. On the outside of a fast bend a trout rose twice in quick succession, so I crept down through the nettles, getting stung and wishing I'd worn jeans, and cast upstream, letting the flow take the fly over its head. First cast and up it came and sipped it in - and spat it out just as I struck. You have to be pretty quick for these brownies!

Another fish rose just upstream by the near bank. I covered it and again a fish came up first time and nailed the mayfly, and this time I did strike quick enough! It shot downstream and darted about putting a fair bend in the tiny rod. But when I came to net it I was amazed to see it was a dace - I've never caught a dace on the fly from here before, so this was a really nice surprise. It seems like everyone was invited to the mayfly buffet!

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At the next spot I spotted a trout holding station on a shallow gravel hump at the end of a pool, and was covering it with the mayfly, but it just wasn't interested, but out of nowhere something else shot out and grabbed it! Again, not a trout, and after a short scrap I brought in a little chub!

Now, this is where I was a bit naughty. The previous two fish were unintentional, but upstream of the pool, in a lovely steady glide under a willow, was a much bigger chub, lazily sipping down insects and flies from the surface. I could see it clear as day and it was too much to resist. Creeping upstream through more nettles and wild mint I eventually got to a position where I could just flick a fly out past the trailing branches, and on the third cast it drifted down perfectly, right on target and no drag. All it had to do was lift its nose and open its mouth...which it did, and gently sipped it down. I struck and it bolted downstream, over the sill and into the pool, and kept going, rod bent double, me hanging on for dear life and line stripping from the reel! After an epic battle I managed to get him into the net, a beautiful slim chub of about 3lb. Not the biggest chub in the world, but not bad for this stream and a monster on such light gear! I apologied to him, and sent him on his way.

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Now I really wanted a trout. The mayflies had thinned out as dusk approached, but hoardes of sedges took their place. In one spot I knocked a hawthorn bush and a giant cloud of them filled the sky. I changed fly to a dry sedge and wandered off again, looking for rises.

As the day ran out, the trout started feeding hard. I'd got to the bottom of the stretch, still troutless, and began to walk back. Aha, there's one! I got in position and cast upstream, and second cast the fly was taken, and a little brownie jumped clear of the water and sped off downstream! After a spirited fight I brought him in, a beautiful little fish with spots to match its appetite. Another trout was still taking sedge from almost the same spot, and I managed to trick that one too. This one was even smaller! But these are wild fish, and their size isn't the main attraction.

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As the light went it got easier. I caught another slightly larger trout from the next rise I saw, and then a much better fish of about a pound from the next. This one was a handful, and fought incredibly hard in the fast water.

With about 20 minutes until 9pm and darkness, I was already completely content. It was a perfect warm, spring evening and I decided to walk slowly back to the car and if I should see a fish rise I'd have a quick cast, otherwise I'd call it a day and go home very happy. As luck would have it, I saw a trout rise in a little turbulent stretch where I've never caught one before but always thought looked very trouty. This one took some fooling - it was about a dozen casts before it fell just right, and a mouth came up and engulfed the sedge. As soon as I'd struck I new it was a better fish, it stayed very low and made some amazingly fast runs, the little reel screaming! After an age I finally got it into the net. It was another really beautiful trout with big spots, probably about a pound or so, a very good size for the stream. Wow, it can't get any better than this!

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One more bend until the car. I thought I'd have a look at the spot where I missed the first take, and saw not one but two trout along the far bank splashing at sedges. The light was now almost gone; I could just make out my fly as it drifted down along the far margin. First cast and a fish is on - a big fish. This one also stayed low and make several long, fast runs, putting a horrendous bend in the rod and doing my blood pressure no good at all. I finally netted it, and it was the biggest so far from the stream - not just on the day, but I think ever! Somewhere about 2lb was my estimation, probably a little less. What a fantastic fish!

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As if that wasn't enough, as I held him in the current to get his breath back before powering off and getting his own back by soaking me, the other trout was still rising! Telling myself that this had to be the last few casts, as catching much more would just be greedy, plus I could only just make out the fly, I moved slightly upstream into casting range and had my last few casts. By this stage I actually couldn't see my fly properly, so when a fish rose somewhere near where I thought it was, I struck and blow me if there wasn't a fish on the other end! This one was the acrobat of the bunch, it spent more time in mid-air than in the water, jumping and crashing about, zooming up- and down-stream like a mad thing. After a really memorable fight I managed to net it, where it continued to fight! This was another big one, 2lbish, and the colours on it were incredible. What a privelege to watch it power back over the gravel.

It was such a wonderful evening. As usual, I was the only person there. The only thing that could have made it better was to have seen a watervole, but I suppose you can't have everything

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All I have seen is that they can live to 15 years - implying that is a bit exceptional - so would it be reasonable to say that in a rich water they might get to 2lb in 10 years, maybe 1lb in about 6 years?]]> The Flying Tench The Flying Tench Mon, 12 May 2008 08:53:58 +0100 Tue, 13 May 2008 23:58:59 +0100 183732 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=183731
The other half does not fish and neither of us can drive so once on site there should be plenty to keep her busy, as she's an amateur photographer she likes lots of wildlife.

We've been to Woodlakes in Norfolk and the Old Gravels Pits near Allerthorpe both of which have large grounds for her to wander round happily snapping.

Ideas please. Thanks.]]> rarepleasures ljk Mon, 12 May 2008 07:40:52 +0100 Mon, 12 May 2008 23:43:10 +0100 183731 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=183598
http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/Overseas-Artic...r_stingray.html]]> Elton Elton Mon, 12 May 2008 05:46:12 +0100 Mon, 12 May 2008 05:46:12 +0100 183598 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=181328 ]]> Stefan G Stefan G Sun, 11 May 2008 18:12:22 +0100 Sun, 11 May 2008 18:12:22 +0100 181328 http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=179386
I went fishing yesterday on a small pond about the size of a football pitch round in size, I got there about 05:45 and was catching small bream until about 11:30 when everything just died, I think when the tempature got hot. Want I am wondering is how to keep the fish coming during the hot periods.

Also, what groundbait is recommended for bream they are smail under 3lb

Thanks

Stan]]> Paul Anderoo Sun, 11 May 2008 10:37:35 +0100 Mon, 12 May 2008 13:54:45 +0100 179386