Posted 08 July 2012 - 06:14 PM
Lindholme boss brands carp anglers 'idiots'
By Angling Times
13 June 2011 10:04
“I don’t want carp fishermen at my day-ticket commercial carp fishery because most of them are just idiots!” These are the words of the owner of one of the UK’s biggest and most successful commercial fisheries this week, after deciding to turn his specimen carp water into a trout fishery.
Neil Grantham, owner of Lindholme Lakes told Angling Times that he is ‘at the end of his tether’ with carp fishermen after a spate of problems at his complex near Doncaster, including masses of litter, fire damage and ‘loutish’ behaviour.
Other incidents have included three carpers found fishing with a total of 14 rods (breaking both fishery and Environment Agency rules) and the mishandling of valuable fish, with Neil worried that the disruption caused by these anglers who visit Lindholme to fish its ‘Big Lake’ could have a negative effect on the rest of his business.
“I’m sick of having to deal with carpers. I’m sure there are many decent, responsible ones out there, but enough is enough.
“I walked round to a group of three guys recently who had 14 rods out, a handful of which had been cast into one of the other lakes where specimen fishing is forbidden.
“Along with this I’ve had litter problems, people trying to light fires and many of them shout around plus, judging by the way they handle some of the fish, I think drinking and having a laugh with their mates is more important than the safety of the carp.
“This fishery is very successful and I won’t let anything jeopardise that. That’s why I’m not going to try to promote or grow specimen carp fishing at Lindholme any longer.”
Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in.
shame on the trust for being party to dragging the rsa into the failed cfp, because they can sniff funding.
Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.
Consumer of bass.
Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.
Angling sanitation trust delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.
Kent & Essex Sea Anglers, block alternative opinion on their face book page, shame full.
Posted 08 July 2012 - 06:30 PM
Posted 09 July 2012 - 07:25 AM
2010 Species Caught :
Grayling - Salmon - Brown Trout - Barbel - Chub - Dace - Stone Loach - Eel - Gudgeon - Minnow - Roach - Rudd - Bream - Pike - Perch - Mirror Carp - Common Carp - Crucian Carp - Ghost Carp - F1 Carp - Sturgeon (grey) - Sturgeon (white) - Tench
2011 Species Caught :
Bream - Perch - Common Carp - Mirror Carp - Ghost Carp - Crucian Carp - Roach - Tench - Ruffe - Rudd - Eel - Pike - Barbel - Sea Trout - Brown Trout - Sail Fish - 3 Spined Stickleback - Dace - Minnow - Chub - Grayling
2012 Species Caught :
Roach - Common Carp - Mirror Carp - Crucian Carp - F1 Carp - Bream - Pike - Eel - Perch - Chub - Brown Trout - Dace
2013 Species Caught :
Pike - Bream - Mirror Carp - Gudgeon - Perch - Eel - Roach - Gold Fish - Golden Orf - Tench - Rudd
Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:21 AM
The media have created a carp cult - presumably to sell bucketloads of kit - and fishery owners have responded by filling every bit of water with carp to cash in on it. It's getting difficult to find a stillwater without carp in it; personally, I'm sick of seeing them. All my best local tench lakes have been ruined by pigs with fins and the "anglers" who fish for them.
If it wasn't for the fact that I take my handicapped son with me on most trips (and he's too clumsy to be next to fast-flowing water) I would fish rivers exclusively, and I envy those who have the opportunity to do so.
Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:27 AM
The people this guy is moaning about is a certain type of 'carp angler' who only fishes easy day ticket waters - the type of water he has created. So, no sympathy from me whatsoever. He could easily create a quiet, well behaved syndicate if he chose, but the only reason he's doing this at all is to make money, and presumably he'll get more dosh from day ticket trout fishing than syndicate carp fishing.
These 'anglers' did not even exist 15 years ago, they've been created by the carp-obsessed angling media and the carp-obsessed day ticket fisheries. When either of these whinges about it, I don't know why they expect any sympathy. Thank god for the rivers.
I remember saying on here years ago that carp fishing was eating itself and taking the rest of us with it, and this is a fine example of that!
Edited by Anderoo, 09 July 2012 - 08:29 AM.
Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:36 AM
I also note that this happened a year ago. Took a while to make the front page.
A wise man has something to say
A foolish man just has to say something
Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:51 AM
So it should be no surprise then that it does not attract a better class of angler.
Species Caught 2013
Pike, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish
Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek