[Clean up operation needed]

Its offical Andy

 

Britain has gone mad, 30 years ago you could have asked the local scout group to do it and they would have swung into action.

But these days its all forms, lawyers and officals.

 

Crazy world

[Clean up operation needed]

I think you're being dramatic. Do you actually people believe all public events are covered by insurance? That's can't be true. If every event that someone organised had to be covered, nobody would do anything and the people with power would win every time. People aren't daft. If someone falls, do you really think they'd hold Loopy responsible for throwing a Bar-B and a clean-up? I can't accept that, even in this lawsuit society.

 

 

No not all public events, but this is proposed on Council property which makes it mandatory.

[Clean up operation needed]

Make sure you know what you’re letting yourself in for, there are a lot of legal issues with organising a public event, and the red tape is ridicules.

Also it will cost you, you will need insurance

 

"As the event you will need to arrange insurance cover to indemnify yourself against civil litigation. This is referred to as 'Public Liability Insurance'. The normal minimum cover should be £5million. Seek expert opinion about your particular needs which may necessitate a greater figure.

 

If you are part of a national charity or a voluntary group, contact your headquarters. You may already be insured or have access to discounted rates.

The Council is not able to offer Public Liability Insurance for events arranged by members of the public or other organisations. "

 

I would try to pursue a different method other than organise it yourself.

Good luck

[Tell me about your weekend]

I had a sensational weekend

 

I spent Friday hunting big perch with lobworm at a lake called Morton springs.

I had over 30 small perch a rudd of about 1 1/2lb and 2 small roach, no big perch, I fished into the dark as it was very bright in the day.

 

all ways next time.

[What if?]

I would move to Australia

[Are keepnets really so bad, if so why?]

I would also like to add that some of the younger anglers on here take great delight in showing us there catch, each photographed as it’s caught, and that has to be a far better way than bagging them up. I highly commend them on this form of recording the catch, the Mobil phone camera is by far a safer method than a keep net!

[Are keepnets really so bad, if so why?]

In the old days I used a keep net (I still have one but never take it with these days)

The lasting memory of releasing fish from the keep net is the dead floating fish and the amount of scales that float off when you empty it and wash it out.

 

They have to be bad news.

 

They also have the potential to be lethal in the wrong hands, I have seen kids tipping the contents of there keep net on to the bank (regardless of gravel, grass or tarmac, and counting the fish then giving them the big heave hoe back into the water.

 

I say they should not be encouraged for use with new anglers and kids

I have just as much fun catching and releasing, I remember when I took the conscious effort to drop the keep net. It was hard, old habits die hard but now I have done it, I have no regrets. I guess I gave it up about 15 years ago.

 

Emma

You are a game fisher, you would not keep all your days trout in a keep net to select the best fish for the pan would you, why treat perch differently?

You know the score, you take a chance and knock one on the head.

[No More Trebles]

Could someone please give me some info on how to tie up traces for zander?

 

- hook size

 

6/0

- barbed or barbless

barbed. (but I crush them down to make lip hooking the live bait easier)

- one or two of them (one I presume?)

One

- how to hook the bait

Lip hook

- what size of bait for the hooks

for Zander I find a 4-6 inch bleak perfect

- what to do when you get a run (leave it longer than when using trebles? Just keep winding? Rod pointing at or away from fish?)

I wait till the fish takes up the slack line and just wind down It does not seem to matter were the rod points I tend to start lifting the rod as soon as I feel the fish but not in a fast motion.

 

 

I'll give them a go at the zander fish-in

You wont be dissapointed.

[Fishing dictionaries]

This site (Anglersnet) links to: http://www.askanglers.co.uk as well for a glossary

 

I have just the book you need

 

Encyclopeedia of Angling

by Norman Marston Published 1966

Published By Paul Hamlyn

 

It is not up to date but is very comprehensive.

 

You could Google it and see if you can get it on the net if not I could lend it to you.

 

Why Russian if you are from Lithuania? Are you a Russian or a Lithuanian? are you looking to target a larger market with your book?

I lived in Latvia for 7 years and had a hard time learning Latvian and Russian names for fish and Tackle; I can see the advantages of such a book.

There are now a lot of Latvians and Lithuanians in the UK who would benefit from such a book, British fishing could also benefit if you prelude it with a statement on the culture of British fishing.

 

Anyway drop me a line if you can’t find the book on the net.

 

Cheers Richard

[No More Trebles]

I have been using circle hooks for 1 1/2 seasons now and can say without a doubt my hook up rate has increased.

I fish for Pike, Zander and perch with circle hooks.

It takes about 2-3 sessions to get used to the hook up, (no striking) but once you have it its great.

In the two seasons I have had no deep hooked fish and no fish released with a hook still in them, it has reduced the time the fish are on the bank and makes fishing a whole lot let stressful.

 

I will never use a treble hook ever again

 

I was inspired by a thread on this forum, I then went a brought all the bits and dabs and made up my own traces. I would like to thank who ever it was that wrote the thread (sorry can’t remember) and I hope this new thread inspires all those who read it to give it a try (try it more than once) as I am sure you will convert.

 

PS I find Circle hooks to have really improved my Zander fishing, the Zander are far less likely to drop the bait.

 

PPS for those that doubt they dont work for large deads, I had two weeks ago a 22lb Pike on a whole herring, lip hooked on a circle hook, this is the bigest pike I have caught on cirles (its my PB) But i have caught a lot of pike in the mid to upper teens also.

[Saved from a blank]

Went fishing yesterday and spent the first 4 hours of the day scratching my behind, wondering if I was fishing just a little too shallow for comfort. I decided to apply a little effort, retrived my baits, changed them to fresh baits or freshened them up with liberal helpings of salmon and smelt oil. In no time at all, I had turned a blank round and got myself 2 missed runs, a wee jack, a 14.5, a 16.5 and a 25.5. Twas grand.

 

 

 

You get top marks from me not only for the pike but for the Hat

[News from Sweden...]

Hi friends, autumn is closing in, very fast now... Big zander is soon to be caught but in the mean time I have been practising my second favourite fishing method, Fly fishing. Couldnt resist sharing a picture from river Em, a wonderful seatrout 8,8 pounds, 28 inches... So beautiful and so seldom caught... at least by me. Im so happy right now.

 

Hi Jan

 

I lived in Sweden for some years; I lived north of Arlanda in Rimbo.

I fished a lot in Norrtalje for Sea trout (Öring) and caught quite a few but the best Sea trout fishing I had was in Älvkarleby

I caught my personal best at 22lb on a fly.

The fishing in autumn for sea trout was great; I also enjoyed the salmon (lax) fishing earlier in the year.

I used to fish in knivsta for Zander (gös), I used lures and live bait, top fishing I have to say. I have even caught a sea trout in the center of Stockholm!! There are not many capital city’s in the world were you can catch a Salmon or a Sea trout.

You really have some top fishing in Sweden.

And not as expensive as you might think. Well worth a trip.

[Chub Fishing On The Chelmer]

I used to fish the Chelmer at paper mill lock some years ago, I found the chub fishing challenging, I did catch a good 5lb+ chub next to the bridge were the side stream enters the main flow, however it was on a dead bait being fished for pike.

some chub are under the bridge but are very shy, after dark is your best bet, bread, no float and a single shot just to get the bread down is best flicked in front of the bridge and allowed to roll under works.

I was told some barbel fingerlings had been stocked at peppermill lock (about 8 years ago) I wonder if they have managed to get established.

 

I have had some fantastic Pike, Tench and Bream fishing on the Chelmer and winter roach fishing can be amazing.

[Perfect Fishing TV Programme]

I would like to see a program that covers different social and economic aspects of fishing.

For example

Perhaps have a program following an urban angler that enjoys fishing his local cannel. Then perhaps a rural angler that fishes a small stream. Then a London executive that flies up to Scotland for a days Salmon fishing. Perhaps show the differences but also the similarities.

Fisherman all have a love of water and the surrounding environment at heart.

if you sit on a cannel in Birmingham fishing, your are a world away from the housing estate, like wise if you fly up to Scotland to catch salmon you are a world away from the city of London.

Emphasis on the enjoyment of going fishing. Also the comparison in what it costs to experience the same enjoyment.

Sea angling should be brought into the programme, perhaps follow someone who seldom gets to sea fish but really enjoys it when on holiday.

I think a program that shows the relevance of angling in a fast changing world would appeal to a large market, make sure its shows the impact it has on people in all social classes. Show how it can be a positive pass time, look at young persons and how it influences there behaviour.

Make sure that commercial fisheries are covered and show how they benefit local communities. Try and show how angling has a positive impact on the UK economy.

Cover the political aspect of fishing, highlight the Minority anti angling organisations, show the conflict between boaters and anglers, swan lovers and bird lovers, if you read this forum long enough you will find all the materiel you will want for research, this forum has thousands of anglers here every day and the reason is because we find what we want to read and we are interested in our sport as a whole not just the fishing. Show the sport warts and all.

 

I think we are due a program that is more about the fishermen and fisherwomen than the fishing.

Let it encourage more people to take up the sport,

I think fishing should be taken seriously instead of the sweet poetic angling programs of the past, (not saying they weren’t good) make it edgy and make it relevant.

[Mystery object, what is it?]

Yes its a standard gorge hook used for catching pike for the pot. Wouldnt mind betting a collecter would be interested in all three of those items.

 

 

Thanks guys,

All 3 items are now in my display case, I had never seen a gorge hook before. Pretty barbaric Item.

I had kind of though that’s what it was for just by looking at it but was not sure.

Anyone like to guess a date, I think properly 1940's - 1950's

 

Cheers

[Baits for estuaries/brackish water]

What would people suggest as a general bait for where flounders are as likely as roach. Still maggots?

 

 

Hi I would use Harbor rag worm with a fish meal type ground bait.

 

Good luck

[Mystery object, what is it?]

 

 

I purchased today from a charity shop 3 bits I found in a box

A Pike Gaff head

A home made lure (which is fantastic and very well made)

and an item that I have never seen before, it is a lead with a steel rod running through, each end has a point and a barb, there is also a lope of steel for I presume attaching it, this is in the center.

This is definatly for angerling but I have no idea. If anyone knos I would be keen to learn, also aproximate date, I presume all 3 items are of a simmiler age.

 

cheers

 

{I cropped and resized the photos to make them fit into a single screen on most monitors. }

[First match]

well you wouldn't have known unless you gave it a go! I havent fished a match since the annual juniors one on the wey navigation. they held it on august bank holiday every year. the last time i rememeber catching 1 roach of abuot 10oz, enough to win my section lol but my dad missed the keepnet ;_____;

 

 

I only ever fished one match, which was back in the 1981; I fished on a lake in Northants. (St James lake, Brackley)

I pegged out my keep net, baited up and settled in, I was in a un fancied swim.

I started to catch from the first cast, first of all I was catching perch, a fish a chuck, then I got into some tench about 1lb mark after about an hour I reckoned I was well a head of the rest. The tench and perch dried up, so I decided to fish caster on the drop at range next to a patch of lilies, I started to catch Rudd, I was a again catching a fish a chuck, I was spraying maggot and casters and letting my bait drop slowly, I then had a great take and a good fight as a bright golden Rudd about 1.5 lb slipped in to the landing net,. I was miles a head of the rest who were struggling to catch. I slipped the Rudd into the keep net and watched it swim straight out the bottom of the net. Were I had pegged out the end the little plastic ring that held the end together had separated and the end of the net was open.

I was gutted, I packed up and went home and have never fished a match since.

[Womens' Knickers]

She was only a ferryman's daughter, but she showed that she could handle a big one!

 

she was only the fish mongers daughter but she could lay on the slab and say Fillet.

[Question for the kent fishermen]

Well we had a change of plan and ended up in Dorset at a small town called west Bay.

We camped on a site next to a small river that ran into the sea, the river had trout and sea trout as well as mullet both thin and thick lipped.

 

Well what can I say; we fly fished the river and caught one brown trout and 2 sea trout. We also course fished the river with rag worm and had 8 nice thin lipped mullet. This as done during the low tide in the sea, the river level remained high due to sluice gates, it was ideal as our tent was right next to the river.

 

The best though was the sea fishing; we fished the harbour at 05:30 on the first morning and caught 50+ mackerel. The same evening we fished the high tide and caught 30+ mackerel and 30+ Pollock, both times we used floating gear.

 

We then fished the beach the following morning high tide and caught a dog fish. On the evening high tide we caught 2 bass 3lb and 2.5lb, 2 dabs, 1 tub gurnard about 1.5lb, a lot of bib and a weaver fish.

 

We fished the harbour the following morning and caught a lot of small dabs and eels and we had 3 dog fish, we fished with pulley rigs on the bottom.

 

That evening we were going to fish the beach but the wind was up and the seas were very heavy, so we set out for the harbour again, we had fished about an hour and had caught 1 small bass (and I mean small about 5 oz) the waves were bashing over he harbour and we were getting very wet, my brother decided he needed the loo so shot back to the camp site, were he found our tent blow to bits, needless to say the fishing ended, we spent 2 hours packing all our wet gear up and left early and drove through the night home. A sad end to a great trip.

 

I can't wait for the next one, it was really nice to do some sea fishing and bit of fly fishing and course fishing for mullet, I highly recommend the area, the camp site though is only open July and August. You can have a fire as well, the facilities are basic but it was a top location, found by luck.

 

Maybe Kent next time!

[Question for the kent fishermen]

Thanks guys just off I will let you know how I get on

[Question for the kent fishermen]

At very short notice my brother (who lives in London) and myself have decided to take a 4 day fishing trip, we have chosen Kent, we want to fly fish, course fish and sea fish, I will be driving down to London at 10am Tomorrow to pick up my brother and then on to Kent, we will be throwing a tent in the car with no fixed plans.

Any suggestions are welcomed, either for campsites or fishing venues, (must be day ticket waters I guess) really fancy some good shore or rock fishing (or piers, breakwater etc), some fly on a river or if not on a lake and any decent wild course fishing.

 

 

 

Cheers Richard

[Carp Free Lake + Photos]

What a great days fishing Natty.

 

 

Nice thread, lovley to see some fish in excerlent condition. love the fact you got in and sorted out he swim.

[FRESHWATER CRAYFISH]

During the mid eighties I was a chef, Signal crayfish became available to the catering trade imported from France this was before crayfish fish farms were popular, these were always delivered live. Many chefs keep crayfish as pets. These were feed on prawns and the like. They were often taken home and put in goldfish bowls. I am sure many were released into rivers canals and lakes. Chefs tend to move around and would have released them when they moved onto there next job. I am convinced that the wide spread distribution of Crayfish is to a large part down to the catering trade. I knew many chefs who keep them as pets and released them, at the time I was not aware of the environmental impact, and In fact I was not aware there was more than one species. I remember I worked at the Randolph in Oxford and I can say without a doubt that at lease 10 or more crayfish went into the River Thames in around 1985-86.

 

As a side note, They do make the most fantatic Crayfish bisque.

[New PB Perch]

Hi firstly I would say dead baiting for perch is not very productive unless you keep moving the fish as in wobbling it. (I also find this more likely to attract pike than perch)

Use a grayling float (perch bobber) or a very small sliding bung. Fish the fish just above the snags. It can then only swim in circles.

Spray maggots around the float as this will attract small fish and hopefully the perch.