bluerinse
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quite right however the grey squirrels do taste lovely deep fried in tempura batter with mixed spices
and fresh pepper salad
If you think that’s good you should try rook squab and squirrel pie
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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I was fishing the Avon at Stratford yesterday, I was catching bleak for live bait when a young lad about 7 or 8 came up and asked what I had caught, I showed him my live bait and he laughed, he said what do you call those they are tiny, I am and expert fisherman and I can catch big carp. Why waste your time catching those if you go to the carp lake that my dad knows you can catch big fish.
I tried to explain that these were live bait but he didn’t get it and basically laughed at me. I did feel a little sad but I guess most kids only know carp lakes; I worry for the future of our sport.
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Also no mention of the top mouth gudgeon? Surely a much greater threat to fish stocks anyway. I know they got rid of alot of them but aren't there still quite a few knocking around?
No the Zander ate them all
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Well I ride/race bikes and it takes a tad more effort and training than fishing!
I don't deign that it takes dedication, but I am sure the top anglers are equally dedicated; I am sure the England world cup team practise every day for many hours.
It’s like comparing someone that goes bike ridding at the weekends with someone who bikes everyday.
“Going fishing” is a pass time the same as going for a bike ride
Being top in your field is completely different
You can't become top of your sport with out putting in hours, effort and dedication.
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well done, I am glad you had a great day, this is a lesson for all fish, I have caught roach and tench with a simmlar method
Nice post.
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Sometimes they just don’t want to feed. As a kid I fished a secret lake that was full of small perch. Like you if you caught one early in the session then you knew you were going to catch all day, I used to catch hundreds. Other days it did not matter what you did you just did not catch. You knew the fish were there but they just were not feeding.
This always seemed to happen when I took a friend. I had told them you could catch a Hundred or more perch and they would arrive all excited and then blank and never return.
It seems that perch can switch off the feed; it might be air pressure, or wind direction or water temperature I don’t know. I do know that when I first started fishing the lake there were only perch in it, but 3-4 years later on roach and Gudgen showed up.
If the perch weren’t feeding normally the others were.
I would say that the perch failed to show 1 in every 5 sessions. It could even be fish one day and catch, fish the next no fish and fish the following day and catch.
Strange but there you go that’s fishing.
You can see this pattern on rivers too, You might catch a mixed bag of fish including perch one day and the next another mixed bag but no perch from the same swim. It defiantly is a perch thing.
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Well if these are Olympic sports why not fishing
Ping pong
Horse riding
Canoeing
Shooting
Archery
Ding sailing
Rowing
Fencing
Judo
Bike ridding
These are all pass times on a par with Fishing, We have world championships the same as all the above mentioned sports, we have a structured league system, and we have a governing body. We have clear rules and regulations
I see no reason why Fishing could not be included.
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Older readers will remember the late John Sidley who used to write in the Angling Times in the 70s, an Eel fanantic (and pal of Mick Brown apparently too), he would advocate 'loose feeding' Eel swims with dead hedgehogs and other road kill.
I regularly fished with John as a Kid (more like followed him about, I was 10 -11 years old) at Earlswood lakes, he was also a dedicated Pike angler but was properly better know for his eel tactic’s, I can confirm that he advocated a sack of dead animals weighted down and thrown in as the best method to attract eels, he would say give it a week or more and you would be right on the eels. He was also convinced Earlswood lakes held the British eel record.
I recall him catching a huge eel on a frog spoon when fishing for pike at Earlswood.
As a kid the eel looked as big as an anaconda, I Know it was on the front cover of the angling times, I wonder if anyone knows how big it was.
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I would suggest that you are missing bites as you are not in contact with your flies, if you feel the take for just an instance that normally means you are feeling the fish coming off, it is very important to keep in contact, if you have slack line or to large a bow in the line it is hard to lift into the bites.
A very very slow retrieve will counter the bow and keep you in contact. I presume you are fishing large water and not a river.
if you are on a large water fishing 3 fly’s is fine, try a heavy fly on the point a CDC on the top dropper and a buzzer on the middle dropper you can then fish at 3 different levels of water, I would fish with a 15 - 20 ft leader once you find were the fish are feeding you can change all your fly’s to target that level be it on the top, 5ft 10ft or even 20ft.
once you find the fish then it does not matter to me if I fish one or three fly's you will catch and with most places having a limit I tend to fish one fly otherwise I have caught my limit and have to leave.
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Tigger I think you must be joking; but if not; what planet are you from? they are dyed as Anderoo says.
I used to colour mine myself once using the now illegal Crysodine dye; which was found to be cargeogenic, however the dyes are usually put onto the maggots feed. they have much safer dyes these days (I hope).
The maggots all start life a similar white-ish colour. (except for the blue and pink striped flies used for mixed maggots
)Bronze maggots are the worst in respect of dyed fingers, if I se a couple of pints it takes me two weeks to get the dye out of my skin. I end up looking like a chain Smoker
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That's Sweden though. 12Kg Sea-Trout for gawd sake!! That's over 26Lbs, which would be a pretty impressive SALMON in the UK, never mind a Sea-Trout. If you catch a 4 or 5Lb Sea-Trout in Scotland, you can pat yourself on the back for having a good day's fishing and tell folk down the pub all about it. In fact, I'd photograph a 2lb Sea-Trout. Size 5 Mepps indeed. I wouldn't use that for Pike....LOL!Its true that is a big fish but we also caught smaller fish in the 4-5lb bracket on a meps 5.
You also took the odd perch and Zander on the Meps and the perch were sometims as small as the Lure.
I also from time to time hooked Salmon parr that were about 8oz on the size 5 Meps!!!
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Prawns are lethal for big perch, that much i know.
That is really interesting for me; I have never tried prawn or heard of prawn being used for perch.
How well does it work? How do you fish it? Float mid water or hard on the bottom?
Has anyone else caught perch on prawn, I might like to give it a go. I know a water were I have been looking for something different for the big perch.
Any experience of using prawns for perch would be gladly received
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The quick answer is, at times fish will be turned on more to one colour than another, or you can target different fish using different coloured maggots. At my local pond I've found that roach are attracted more to the plain maggot, whilst perch go more for the red ones
Btw, using a 'medusa' (a cork ball or boilie with maggots superglued to it by the blunt end) is a very good bait for carp; and superglueing several maggots end-to-end produces a very good substitute for a worm when fishing for perch....
Certain waters fish better with certain colours, this could be that that a particular colour matches best a natural food source such as nymphs or shrimp, or it could just be the case that the particular maggot colour stands out better in that water.
The river Avon in Warwickshire is renowned for producing better catches to bronze maggots, why I can’t tell you but I can tell you, you catch more with Bronze maggots!
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Budgie thats a very well reasoned and written viewpoint from an obviously experienced angler who's probably seen one or two things in his time. I pretty much agree entirely.
The two cases could very well be taken as an example of how the natural environment is held in regard at this point in time.
The first err of the angler in questions judgement and in my opinion by far the worst of the two could of had potentially (however large or small) terrible consequences, is met by a small fine and then the second, a bogus insurance claim is met by a much stiffer sentence.
The livebait thing is pretty much indefensible. The second offence is less so to a certain extent. I don't know if the guy is a full time angler or not, if so, how much cash do you earn from that? Nobody knows the circumstances behind it. Were there any personal reasons that pushed him into making the desicion or was it just pure greed.
The second offence dosn't really to my mind have too much bearing of angling itself regardless of whether he's a famous fisherman or not. The fact it was a boat dosn't really make much difference, would it be different if it were the carpets in his house.
Would say a known writer get lambasted for trying to pull off a claim on his computer?
Insurance companies are, as many of us know personally, far from upstanding keepers of morals.
The guy might just be a bit shifty and may of gotten away with all sorts of things in his angling 'career', nobody knows or will know.
A soiled reputation will probably turn out to be far more costly both finacially and mentally than any fines he occurs.
Just my opinion on a matter I know very little about, like everyone else.
The biggest problem with bogus insurance claims is that the honest person such as me ends up paying higher annual fees to cover the cost of the bogus claims. It is a selfish act that shows the caricature of the man, add this to the fish smuggling crime and you get a picture of the personality of the Man. Not someone that should be representing our sport.
I don't care what or if there are extenuating personal circumstances he should know better. It looks like he has now lost a mayor source of his income as a result. He only has himself to blame and will now I am sure slip into angling obscurity. How different it could have been for him if he had chosen to stay on the straight and Narrow.
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When I lived in Sweden the best method for sea trout was with out a doubt spinning, a size 5 copper Meps, I always used to fish the first hour of day break, the sea trout were still moving to there daytime resting places, if the fish were running they would be leaping about, a big copper Meps is deadly, I have had sea trout up to 12kg.
After an hour the fish stop moving and you will be lucky to find them with a spinner, it is then time to fish a prawn under a float, you need a pike float with a heavy weight, you then have to search behind boulders and into undercut banks to find the fish. Slow hard fishing but you will catch the occasional fish.
Using a fly first thing will also catch fish, but spinning will catch you more. You can cover the water better and fish deeper if need be, the flash of the copper is irresistible to the sea trout.
I presume these tactics would be similar in the UK.
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Woops, it never crossed my mind you might be a minor, If you are take your mom or dad with you if someone offers to give you some lessons.
"It depends on how old you are of course, if you're a minor don't go meeting oddballs (like Bluerinse
) off the net!"Oddball? me? you might be right
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My advice would be go fishing with an experienced angler. Most anglers would be happy to show you the ropes. Were do you live? Someone on here may even be happy to go with you.
Perhaps join a local angling club or just go to a venue were there are a lot of anglers and ask if you can quietly watch someone.
Buy a good angling magazine and read up tactics or buy one of the many books on how to fish and have a read.
If you are Warwickshire based I will be happy to take you fishing
Cheers and good luck
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Was thinking of giving elderberries a go as its a long time since i last fished with them.(about 20 years ago on the Lea)
Would agree with Dan Dan just collect them on the day.
I was feeding blackberries to chub and dace yesterday as I walked my dog along side the river Arrow. the dace came for them first but then the chub pushed them out.
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have got myself a tub full of nice juicy worms and am going to have a go with them tomorrow on the feeder.just wanted to know the best way to present them on the hook?should i cut them up into small pieces or hook them up without cutting them up?
cheers chris
Hi Chris
It depends what you are after?
Generally I like to fish the whole worm, hooked at the head end once.
I tend to use half worms or sections when float fishing in the winter but still always start with a whole worm.
Were are you fishing?
What type of fish will you catch?
Cheers
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Try using big worms; you can still hide the hook in the bait even if you use a size 10.
Bait the area with chopped worm. Vagabonds advice is spot on with regards to location and time of day.
It can also pay to pre bait an area.
Spend a week each day baiting an area (as described by Vagabond) with sweet corn, and mashed bread. And some chopped worm. Then early in the morning creep up to the area and lower a nice fat worm into the swim, the action should be pretty quick.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
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bluerinse I'm not worried (or losing sleep) at all, I just cant see the point in promoting the practice eating of coarse fish. We all know the power of advertising has on Joe Public as millions is spent on tv advertising every year. And the world wide web is just another tool in the advertisers belt.
As for the fact that we all know what an excellent source the world wide web is for researching any subject that takes your interest; the answer is simply at your fingertips!
It's a case of "rain stops play"
Work! Whats that?
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The problem with promoting the eating of course fish(especially on the World web) is people who've never even considerd eating course fish will have a go just for the hell of it and they may well be in their thousands. Also any immigrants looking in will just go for it all the more if they see UK anglers promoting/condoning it. Ok if you eat the occasional fish so be it but don't spout about how good it is on the internet.
Tigger you don't have to worry about hoards of UK residents rushing out to catch kill and eat a fish, 99.9999% of the Uk population would not know how to gut, clean and prepare a fish, they are horrified at the prospect, (most households would not own a knife for the job either) if the fish does not come frozen, filleted, wrapped in batter or breadcrumbs they won't touch it. Which when you think about it is amazing for an Island Race.
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Hang on a minuite, the Eastern block and France are a bit bigger and less populated than the UK.
But I could argue that hardly anyone in the UK eats pike, but it is common practise in the east.
If you believe what is written here all the fish in the east have been eaten, which is not the case.
Pike in the UK are properly killed less now than at any time in the UK history.
Pike would have been on the UK menu for thousands of years and guess what there still here.
Booty Bargain
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They all look unused, It does make you wonder how they end up in a boot sale for a Fiver
Well done