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The faster licencing of anglers and all fishermen are here the better ,its time to recognise we are all responsable for catching stocks of fish. We all contribute to the amount of fish taken from the sea regardless of fishing tackle used. I would be willing to pay, record, and return any species that are under threat.Faster we get our act together the better, time some people woke up to the fact. T regards

Now thats conservation, 2 pieces and a licence. I would add a logbook as well for all charter vessels. regards clicker

Anyone tried this method for Pollock, using 15 ft fly rod with full sinking line and any trout or salmond fly trolling with long lines along kelp edges of ground. Catch is usually of large pollock try Allys shrimp 30 to 50 yards full sinking line and backing. regards Clicker Good hunting

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gill nets of mono fillament single strand are illegal in Scotland and no nets can be fished on the surface of the water.Multi mono is allowed with mesh sizes of 4 inch or 4.25 inch and cannot be fished on the surface.Without a licence it would not be long before you land in trouble working any kind of gill net in Scotland.regards gill nets of mono fillament single strand are illegal in Scotland and no nets can be fished on the surface of the water.Multi mono is allowed with mesh sizes of 4 inch or 4.25 inch and cannot be fished on the surface.Without a licence it would not be long before you land in trouble working any kind of gill net in Scotland.regards

I am not saying there is a huge problem with unlicenced vessels but there is a problem, I am saying they don,t have anything to worry about if new regulations come to be inforced.I do wonder though about the amount of fish they catch and what happens to it afterwards? Are all anglers permitted to take home the fish they catch on charter, I certainly have been told no in the past. Only once yes, but only goes to highlight a problem that does exsist. I mean no harm to charter vessels at Whitby I just am concerened about the amount of undeclared fish that all charter vessels catch. These fish should be reported in the same way as other fisheries. regards

Rock turbot is sold here in chipshops and is seacat or seawolf or wolfeel the fish one of The Trawler men held up on the last programe and is one best white fish you can eat. good hunting Rock turbot is sold here in chipshops and is seacat or seawolf or wolfeel the fish one of The Trawler men held up on the last programe and is one best white fish you can eat. good hunting

Altair broke the law and were punished for it and so will others be in the future that break regulations. About Whitby there is a big issue that needs to be addressed after looking into sites run by Whitby charters, I find 17 charter vessels and don,t see any of them as registered fishing boats. They have no right to keep your catches for resale and are not allowed to sell fish for profit unless a registered fishing vessel. To identify a registered fishing vessel see earlyier post. good hunting

The fact remains that we do not know the amount of cod that are landed by us anglers and charter vessels,why can,t we help to get the information and regulation with enforcement to catch the fish to get this the catch data.If there is nothing to hide anglers should not have a problem with licenceing and reporting of catches. The overall stock will get better in the future with half the commercial fleet now decommed and the other half not able to land any.Do you think commercials catch cod to dump? commercials trawlers are now more considerate to cod than any sector.They will steam many miles from areas where cod are present, would charter vessels do this ? of course not because they rely on the cod catches, commercials do not. As for Peterhead market its is a shaddow of the place it was and with 35 fishery officers for about the same amount of boats is very strictly regulated. Every vessel with more than 1 ton of cod providing they have quota to land them, must report in to Edinburgh 4 hours before they land, there are more cod being landed by anglers on a daily catch with no restrictions caught by unlicenced commercial fishing charter boats. There is a need to manage stocks caught by charter vessels, any angler looking at sites with catches of 1400 klo thats a ton and a half should support some sort of regulation.Charter vessels also because if you are chartering legally you have nothing to worry about. Overall cod stock is increaseing fishing vessels see it with fish returning to ground at certain times of year.Charter vessels are reporting good catches and anglers are catching cod around the coast in inshore areas.marine labs also report slight and HIGHLIGHT SLIGHT increase of SSB, this is encourageing for us all but still well short of recommended levels this is why they still recommed zero catches of cod for 2008. I think as cod catchers we all need to help provide data of catches, landings, of fish returned to run a well managed fishery giving every stakeholder a share of a fishery that needs protection in the future. regards good hunting

sorry concerning how vast compaired to Peterhead market don,t know ,but if charter vessels and anglers have to be registered or licenced peterhead market would not hold the catches I am sure of that.Untill we all are made accountable we will not know. regards

Hi, not bitter, fact is though as you stated anglers can land much more than I can land legally and thats why we need to get catches recorded, our quota is 100 kg per month per boat not worth us landing.Anglers now are in a possition where we need to address the issue of cod and the dick heads you talk about will enforce the powers they will have on the cod fishery in the future.I hope this is good for all anglers and fishermen that fish for pleasure or profit. If it means zero catches I am all for it, the marine labs are the people that the goverment take advise from .Quotas will be based on the evidence produced and we will suffer unless SSB is increased.At the moment there is not a trawl or net that cannot catch cod at sometime of the year although this is trying to be developed by seafish and various people that will include escape panels ect. Zero landing we have with many commercials at the moment, incuding yourself and many other vessels as stated earlier cannot land any cod because of quota.Its just not worth the largest part of commercials to land cod with many skipper choosing to avoid areas that cod are in abundance.This does not stop cod being caught though,and returned dead into the sea. Thats the system we are in with no easy answer so who knows ARE COD IN DANGER? PERSONALLY I can,t believe it although they need restrictions and regulation to protect them for the forseeable future in all sectors. good hunting

sorry glennk did not mean to single out Whitby I was just useing it as an example for the amount of cod that are landed in the port, as long as it recorded and the vessel and skipper are licenced and registered to sell the catch. I have no problem with the amount of fish thay catch as long it is within the rules and quotas allocated to them. good hunting

Charter vessels have loans to service and expenses also, its only on a smaller scale they still need to catch fish so should be regulated and licenced to catch fish. good hunting

Hi Barry yes all fish should be recorded I would say, and going by websites on the web its a considerable amount of fish. Whitby is only an example that I used because its well advertised but at the end of the day its only one port that cod are targeted even here in a tiny harbour anglers fish night and day to catch the codfish that everybody wants to catch. How much charters vessels are there? How much harbours and hot spots are there where anglers fish regular? How much cod are taken from these vessels and hotspots? All questions the fishery departments must be looking at in the future and I would certainly agree with them it must be a considerable amount but untill we find out we will never know. Salmon used to be netted all around the coasts and coastal stations had to record catches and with river boards each fish is now recored if caught or returned with weight given.Now anglers catch the most fish and is a multi million pound industry for areas around the country.Surely this should happen with cod. Charter vessels that keep the fish anglers catch and are not licenced to sell them are doing as much damage to the stocks as a commercial boat wether it one fish or a ton if its landed illegally they are breaking the law and should be reported to nearest fishery office. Caught 2 small codling today on a sprool rig very small fish and very thin had a nice ling and small lemon sole on bait all returned good hunting