peter mccue

Not funny at all, but hard to hold back an ironic smile when you think he's the founder of a TV station designed to put forward moderate Islamic views, yup beheading your missus should help the cause

Quite right Alan, people have to be responsible for their own actions. Years ago though banks behaved in a more socially responsible way, restricting those who unfortunately were not so financially aware as others. I've no doubts they were protecting the banks against bad debts as well. Doesn't produce enough money for the greedy beggars in todays world.

The arrogance of these people is quite stunning Ken isn't it, hauled up before the MP's they still insisted they'd done nothing wrong & could not be held accountable for the banking collapse. One even insisted he was a victim as well, losing millions off his shares...my heart bleeds for him Incidentally, I watched a BBC commentator actually say on a news program, that everything was being critiscised on the basis of hindsight which makes it much easier to point a finger, his inference was nobody said anything at the time Now maybe it's just me, but I remember lots in the newspapers about critiscisms of 6 times your wage loans, the obscene bonus system, the trillion pound personal debt that the populace had wracked up, the unsustainable house prices etc etc. All were quoted to highlight the fragile nature of our economy. Also wasn't the government warned 12 mths in advance of the Icelandic collapse & chose to ignore!

I'm not being evasive Cory, but if you read my post again you'll find it answers your question quite clearly.

Of course we don't have the right to treat animals this way & of course PETA are right, but Cory has been irresponsible to highlight it using a PETA standpoint. This isn't earth shattering news, we all know it. The reality is, we need to start charging the proper price for meat to allow the farmers to raise free range animals with a reasonable quality of life, & a quick & relatively painfree end. But of course, until we can balance the cost so as not to return to the days when to have meat was a Sunday treat for people on low incomes, then we have to continue to try & educate the consumer & rein in the supermarkets using responsible organisations. To use an extreme organisation such as PETA to highlight an obvious problem, risks giving them credibility with the public.

'cept it's not a Beatle track

Right on the mark with that one steve, apart, Lennon & McCartney wrote some great songs but clearly did not reach the stratospheric levels of their combined talents. One of the big disappointments for me was to see how George Harrisons song writing ability plummeted when the Beatles split up, he needed l & M far more than they needed each other. Quite agree with what you're saying about that list Leon, but still surprised to see the Rolling Stones so far down the pecking order considering they were on the go at the same time, & are still releasing music today.

Blimey there's a task & a half, pick your favourite Beatles song Lets see, Back in the USSR, Revolution (fast version), Bulldog, Paperback writer, Hey Jude, Tomorrow never knows, Norwegian Wood, this is silly I'll be here all night! I was looking at some music stats the other night, & it probably won't come as any surprise to find out the Beatles have sold more records than anybody else in history. Apparently there are only 3 acts that have amassed 1 billion sales, 2nd & 3rd are Elvis & Bing. Quite something when you consider the fab 4 only had 10 years recording as opposed to Elvis & Bing who both had very extensive recording careers. It's a very interesting list to look at, you will be shocked by the big names that languish well down the pecking order, perhaps suggesting more music & fashion industry favourites rather than customer favourites.

Great post Newt, unfortunately it's great because we can identify with its content. But to be fair to the Health & safety executive, it's often the prats who interpret the HSE that are the problem, overzealous jobsworths with a need to control lives but unfortunately don't have the required level of common sense to do the job properly.

I was just wondering whether or not we can blame Newt in ADVANCE. I have a number of tasks coming up at work, & if things go wrong & I have to take the blame on the flimsiest of reasons, ie I organised & run the jobs, it's going to take the shine off Christmas. But if I can blame Newt in advance of any work problems, the pressures off no matter what happens, & I can then enjoy Christmas Seems reasonable.

What an awful shock to open my mail tonight & see that email from Elton. I thoroughly enjoyed Mr wigglys posts & his superb photos, we certainly have lost a very valued & talented member of this forum. My heartfelt condolences to all his family.

Brilliant Newt, I have a sneaky feeling Sunday dinner going to upset the mother in law this week Hope you & Jan have a good thanksgiving.

Excellent HB, I'm just picking myself up off the floor & going for a warm sweet cup of tea to calm down.

I admire your principles Challenge, if not your descriptive use of words (I think the evil tyrants mentioned accounted for 80m dead minimum, puts the grocers daughter to shame) I'll just accept that once again it proves the point that Maggie must be the most polarizing & keenly felt issue for Britons over the last 30yrs & nobody ever seems to change sides.

Enjoy the rest of your Sunday MrM & if your having a bevvy or two have one for me

If a real evil tyrant had brought you to your knees MrM, you could consider yourself damn lucky.

Oh dear

John was right again when he said our viewpoints are most definately coloured by how we are affected by either Tory or Labour policies, & in accordance with that thought Challenge it would seem you didn't fare well, as of course 1000's of others didn't also. But evil Tyrant, Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, Hitler certainly justify that description but Maggie surely not, not even from a staunch labour position.

Certainly was our 'shite' I remember it well. 27% inflation, unions in power winter of discontent, country broke & having to go cap in hand to the IMF to bail us out, unemployment & interest rates rising rapidly, economy extremely fragile & on point of collapse & oh yes I nearly lost my house & job!! I agree with you John we don't need global help, we can do it all much better all by ourselves.

Excellent video Colin, I think it shows quite clearly Lewis was all over Kimi on the approach & had no where else to go but the run off on the turn in. Once Lewis had backed off they were pretty well in exactly the same situation on the way out. The reality to me, was simply that Kimi was not in control & unable to counter lewis's quick thinking. As I understand it, McClaren twice asked race control whether the overtaking was ok & twice were given the thumbs up.

What an absolutely brilliant end to the race, & to be honest when it came to sheer car handling skills & guts not technological advantages, Kimi found himself on the wrong end of a masterclass in control from Lewis. What a shame therefore, that inept/biased officials should rob the sport of one of its finest racing wins. A relation of mine is always banging on about the corruption & favouritism shown to Ferrari in F1, I've always had my doubts, but after this season it's looking like two options, either Ferrari favouritism or a vendetta against McClaren.

Signed up & pleased to do so. A military hospital would be in the best position by far to deal with servicemens injuries, any institution dealing with a particular group would soon become more proficient than a general NHS hospital at dealing with their specific problems. As for 'best of care' in the NHS, I'm afraid thats pretty dodgy ground. I have nothing but admiration for the NHS staff who battle against this monolith & still produce good nursing care, but 'best of care' I'm afraid not. Unfortunately there is a section of the public who transfer their anger at the Iraq/Afghanistan situation onto the poor men & women out there doing what they're employed to do & putting their lives on the line whilst doing it. Incidentally, when did this government of ours ever do anything that didn't need either a total overhaul, or a U turn to prevent it being a complete disaster!

Cheers Norm, I'll certainly be on the lookout for Bass & Mullet. I caught a few at Bude a few years back & pretty damn exciting on a match rod using 1.7lb hooklengths & size 16 hooks!

I wonder if you guys could help me out. I'm off to St Mawes the last two weeks in September, & I was wondering whether anybody had any experience in fishing the area with light gear ie Carp rods etc. I've done a fair bit of searching & it looks a pretty good place for the Mackerel, Mullet, Gars, flounders etc, but theres no contest when it comes to advice from people who've actually fished the place. Quite fancy trying Dogfish & small Conger on the Carp rods as well.

Put phoney Tony's in there as well & you've got yourself a wind tunnel!!!