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  1. CarpW, Mostly glass with a couple steel. Carbon wasn't around yet when I bought my last rod. (just kidding, no cane any longer). Guys who use cane rods also use meerschaum(sp) for their pipe tobacco. Phone
  2. Dales, Just a WAG. Bream are probably tasty. Walleye (Zander, I think they are the same fish - different name? Maybe not??) and their cousins the Yellow Perch eat carp with enthusiasm over here. Again, just a WAG. Phone
  3. Worms, I added the carp part just to "iss" you guys off. Guess I'll set the hook now. Phone
  4. All, Hey ! We don't have that stuff where I live. I looked. Guess I should be thankful for small blessings. "Can grow 64 meters of root in one year???? Phone
  5. gozzer, I nicked this from Wotnot"s article on you'uns river health. ""...said: "Britain's rivers are the healthiest for over 20 years, and otters, salmon and other wildlife are returning for the first time since the industrial revolution."" Probably due to the introduction of carp. Phone
  6. Sportsman, I was reading the regulations looking for some logic. They, the regulators, go out of their way to explain the reasoning behind the ban for some household organic acids. Still, my knee jerk was "how stupid" also. "Household Vinegar is about 3% acetic acid and 97% water (with a mixture of a small amount of few other chemicals). Acetic acid has the formula C2H4O2." Since vinegar has no "real" definition you could be using 3X strength or 30X strength acetic acid. There's no stopping vinegar! Tigger, My nemesis is Yellow Sedge. Thought I had it - then found out all the work has to be done in the light of a full moon. The darn stuff is back. Phone
  7. BUDGIE, What right do you claim to make such a sensible post on a thread that has gone so radical? Phone
  8. gozzer, And, it sounds like many course fishermen agree. To quote gozzer, ""I was not prejudiced against carp prior to the mass introductions"". It doesn't look like were arguing "suppositions" but rather semantics. I can only speak to the natural biological habits of the species. How, why, in what manner who, when or where they were "introduced" is a political statement. Carp are just fish - not politicians. So don't blame the common carp cause your !issed at the human Leadership. And, once established, carp can certainly take over. Never would I say they can't. They need controls where artifical, un-natural, excessive or otherwise unhealthy introduction has taken place (so would pike). Not sure extermination is a "control" for bad politics however. You want to "blame" the species. IMO - A rather shallow position. Carp in their NATURAL environment keep a tidy home. Left to their own devices they don't chit in their own mess kit anymore than most native wildlife. Oddly, when stressed they "overspawn" and can even spawn more than once a year. You're at the top of the food chain - eat em'. Just don't tell me your disdane is in the name of "Sport". Phone
  9. gozzer, Well, frankly, it is difficult to think that even one person can disagree with me. What do you suppose went wrong in Europe for the last few thousand years Those water's are (were) clear as gin with carp as the dominate species. I believe it is your power of observation and the presence of carp. Perhaps, you were a tad prejudice or had an unfavorable opinion in the first place. Now you are asking me to "fortune tell" what you thought you saw. Even Phone isn't that good. Carp don't do that! Phone
  10. Phone

    A question

    gozzer, I like em' all (species). We have you at a disadvantage. We are still building lots of ponds and lakes (up to 100 acres can be considered a "pond" - after that you are building a lake). We have "Water Shed Districts" that are mandated by federal law to require ponds be built to prevent or minimize errosion(sp) or industrial runoff. There are guys who know there chit really good (no, not "well", but "GOOD" - that's the way we talk). It is based on a miriad of factors as well you can imagine. Depending on the surface acres of water you "must" put in "XYZ" species of fish (always to include a few carp btw). The reason I mention this is that the "fundamentals" of WHY are well documented by universities, state, and federal "experts". If you would like I recommend the University of Kentucky as a starter. (A surface acre of pond or lake is the number of acres covered by one foot of water - or 1 ft of warter over 1 acre is a surface acre). The problem is not that many or most fish can't or won't co-exist - - - it's that if you put in "X" number of - - - ohh say - - - pike and then go fish them out you have a problem with other species unrelated to the fish themselves. It is really an angler issue. Angler issues are "considered" when pond building. BTW, we still screw it up by illegally introducing what "we" think is "best". To "pick" a species in the food chain and vertical water column is like "picking" a bird from the sky. It is impossible, you can't fool mother nature. Phone
  11. Ziggy, It does appear you can use vinegar in both the UK and EU as a preservative (<>5%). Can you help it if the plant dies? Phone
  12. Gozzer, Ha ha, you think Vagabond needs help? I guess I'll have to count you among the "gazillions" that beleive carp are the "cause" which simply isn't true. Carp can be the result of a fishery "gone to ell in a hand basket" but never the cause. When you say "after" I believe you are practicing "Phoneizms". It is Not likely - "In the waters known to me, there wasn't a decline in numbers of other fish, until after the carp were stocked." (my emphasis) You are drawing a conclusion that is no fault of the carp or of nature. I can't attest to human behavioUrs or the conditions of the post carp pond maintainance. Your conclusion " --- BUT --- it's their introduction in numbers that makes the water "crappy". I can only assume you mean the pond caretakers. Carp don't do that!!!!! Phone
  13. Phone

    A question

    anyone, Before I reply, what's an "F1"? (davedave's post) Phone
  14. Sportsman, And, if you are in the new world with alkaline(sp) soil you will get BIG weeds by adding acid. Phone
  15. Sportsman, A well thought out comment. I think I probably don't have a clue about "risk/benefit" in the circumstances you point out. Further, I think CARP may have two distinct different roles in England. One, "specimen" carp; two, wild carp through management or mismanagement. I know, even in the 1970's it was becoming difficult to conger up the notion you were fishing for "wild" creatures on some of the paylakes I visited over there. I always try to use an unhooking mat in the hot of the summer when fishing in urban settings whilst fising from a slab of 150+ degree cement. Phone
  16. Vagabond, Now I've got you all stirred up. Yep, Brown trout. And yes, you're commenting to multiple folks and I didn't realize the "muddy" compairison was the exclusive stream you talked about. It is not all that contensious. Fact is 1, the water is muddy; 2 you have carp. I'll never convince you they are NOT related because of carp. Even though the clearest most pristine streams in Europe, carp native habitat, have contained carp for thousands of years, Lakes that are practically exclusively carp are clear water to the bottom. They too have become muddy. Just took the carp a lot longer to "muddy the water" in them. Certainly not self respecting European predator angler would blame external forces. When left to their own devices carp are rather tidy feeders. They don't uproot like hogs. And, they practically never create mud (a difficult task usually left to a deity). Nevertheless, you and a bizillion others, certainly you are not alone, watch native species diminish and carp show up then put two and two together. You know the presence of carp just might be a testiment to their ability to survive in water that "for some reason?) became to crappy for native fish. For sure, when served lemons, carp can make lemonaide. Every species can't. You know some of the "nasty issues" we have with carp I'm sure. I've already spoken about Utah Lake so I'll stick with it as an example. Despite removing (I now think it up to about 8 - 15 million) carp the water is still clear as a bell. Not "clean" but clear. Well, so much for that. We could beat a dead horse forever. I still contend you "blame the messenger" to at least some degree. My next point. It is difficult to talk about spawning trout. The nest is a rudd. You fish for rudd. Phone
  17. Ajay, Has happend a couple (or more) times over here. Problem is/was since the company was broke the stock went unattended. Not cool when the ponds colapse(sp) into the watershed. Chesters1, Tilapia is the number 2 fresh water fish behind catfish in the US market (about? $5.00 lb.) Phone
  18. Den, My mama had curtains that kept the curtains from fading in the sun. Phone
  19. Bobj, A tragic story for sure. No doubt carp exaserbated the problems - as for cause - - - well, I just have to believe you. I don't know better. Again, you have me at a HUGE disadvantage. In truth, I'm not even sure where "Oz" is. I just took a stab at Australia. We don't call it "Oz" over here (trying to be AN friendly). Yes, yes, and yes - I'd love to fish all of the above places - - - and NOT for carp. We have plenty of carp in the US (North America). Phone While at it, I don't know exactly how to use the word "whilst". But I LOVE it. Wish it was in American English. Notice I'm using it frequently (probably wrong?)
  20. viney, I hate 3 or 4 word responses. But, what can I say? Nice fish! Phone Edit: Tell us something about it - the pb I mean. You had to do something special, no one get a pb by accident.
  21. Dales, Good show - to hit the target I mean. What "method" did you use, i.e. feed kit etc? Hope I'm coming in at the end of the thread. I don't want to hijack your report. How do you do that? The English guys that have moved over to this side of the pond do it also. Fish overnight I mean. A L O N G session for me is from breakfast (at home) til lunch (at home). Shows you the difference in culture doesn't it? Fishing overnight is torture and you make it sound like you had fun. Phone
  22. Smudger, Like I said, it is HARD in two dimensions to fully understand. I bet we could fish and argue from daylight til dark whilst fishing together. OK - a slight "jab" We agree to disagree. The world was flat for a long time. Microbiology is reasonably new, and tradition is very old. (insert giggle). Phone
  23. Vagabond, "Trout" is a broad brush. Not sure which trout you are talking about? Brown trout and (what we call Rainbow trout might be different than what you fish for? If so, forgive my ignorance. In breeding areas after the female has completed the rudd, it has been fertilized, and she recovers it with sand and gravel it's a done deal. Trout eggs can be harvested and will hatch in a sealed temperature controlled plastic bag without adding additional oxygen. While we don't agree on the exclusivity of "carp muddy the water" issue, for sure, I can't see how carp change the trout hatch? No question a prisintine trout lake or stream doesn't need carp. But carp and trout co-exist rather nicely. It's the fishermen who are stressed. I too prefer a "clear water" trout lake where I can see that dimension of nature. Why it is not clear - well - ? Often it is because an abundance of anglers disrupt the females in spawn, refuse to take responsibility - and blame the carp. Phone Edit: my spelling/typing is awful - even after editing I'm sure I've missed something
  24. Leon, "Sportsmen" and food producers have a different agenda 99% of the time. Don't you think? Can you say civil war. We are facing a REAL problem with the Silver and Bighead carp. One thing that would help, and it is being tried, is to change the name of Asian carp when presented as a "food fish" Common Carp are culturally despised as food fish. Eating common carp denotes a very very low social and economic standard in the US. It does appear often commercially as "gefilta fish" or "white fish". I kind of believe you couldn't distinguish Bighead Carp from many very fine freshwater or ocean food fish. But if you call it a carp you better have a puke bucket handy. (I've never eaten the Silver Carp). Phone (Also, I am in a huge minority and I don't have a leg to stand on, but the Silver Carp only propagate in moving water. Whether they can adapt to our lake environments or not is the bigger issue. I say probably not. But if they can there is not only a potential, but a likelyhood, they will desimate sport fishing and commercial fishing as we know it. No one wants to "find out for sure", and frankly, neither do I.) We also have the problem of "lumping" them together as "Asian" carp. Bighead and Silver carp are actually quite different.)
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