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Bob Shotter

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  • Birthday 02/08/1947

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  1. Thought anglers would be more concerned with the absolute s**t storm heading towards the C&R anglers of both fresh and saltwater thanks to the likes of the Angling Trust but hey ho. Nice to see this forum is still going however been a while since I last looked in.
  2. Frankly both WSF and its C+P site are a waste of space time will tell if the new owners make a difference TBH I feel Mike T Jnr cashed in at the right time.
  3. Still bashing the anti Angling Trust drum then Baz thought you had given that up as a lost cause. See they have just been granted a big lump of funding and are growing from strength to strength. Still the Bass thing is to be debated in parliament today tune in from 2.15pm or use the catch up HERE
  4. Good grief Lux your alive, new computer for christmas? Looks like your way behind re this Bass thing perhaps you should give WSF a look in some of your mates are missing you http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/threads/bass-2016-regulations-thread.4909339/page-82#post-9602230
  5. Can’t speak for Kent & Essex but here in Cornwall we are arranging an open meeting before moving forward with a strategy. Anyone wanting further info should contact Ben Bradshaw at Cornwall IFCA on 01736 336842
  6. All the minutes from this group can be found here >>> http://www.marinemanagement.org.uk/seaangling/steering.htm
  7. Bait collection summit I’m surprised more is not being made about the Bait Collection Summit that the Angling Trust has organised. The event takes place in London at Fishmongers Hall on 24th September 2013 and in part a response to proposed restrictions proposed by some of the ten IFCAs. http://www.rodbenders.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Angling-Trust-Bait-Collection-Summit-Agenda-September-24th-2013.pdf
  8. The game is already afoot Shaun the Eastern IFCA has already received reports about the amount of Skate being taken by anglers, in Yorkshire the Whitby charter fleet anglers are reported to be selling fish illegally. The question is will the IFCAs act? Already under huge pressure to sort out the various habitat directives as well as looking at the proposed MCZs my feeling is that other than what is already covered by law then things are unlikely to change any time soon. On the other hand if sea angling reps start making demands on the back of what is expected to be a boost from the social economic clarification that Angling 2012 should deliver then we could well see them dig a hole for themselves.
  9. I’m inclined to agree with you ‘Seafoods’ it seems the few have decided for the silent majority but let’s be fair, being in the EU where other member states have been every bit a part of the want/need for recognition that has got us to this point. Fishing politics is like a cancer fuelled by the supposed lack of fish and the need to treat it with various forms of conservation and regulation. Sea Angling is now in that mire and that means those that care will now have a job on their hands, the time for division and playing the blame game is over we should be looking for unity now to protect our right to recreationally fish the sea from beach or boat without masses of regulation. My biggest fear is that some will drive for more and bigger fish for sea anglers and that could well bring us into a conflict with an already under pressure commercial sector, time will tell.
  10. What a charming response to be sure, all I have mouthed off at these past two years are at those who have in one way or another let sea anglers down and are helping the likes of the Angling Trust further their cause. Many who you would like to suck up to rather than be honest about and all because you want to be liked, sorry Barry but it don’t wash and that’s why you will be for ever moaning on the internet and a fat lot of good that will do.
  11. One has to ask “What is your beef Barry?” Is it that the Angling Trust has ignored you? I take it you are still a non-member not that it makes much difference as they have long since closed their own communication forum. However members do get a response so I’m reliably informed. Do you feel their idea of following what is claimed to be an Irish success story is wrong? And are you basing that on what appears to have been a good year on parts of the south coast. While that can’t be denied other areas have not had a good year for RSA Bass fishing by any stretch of the imagination, so how does that fit with your ideal? The Angling Trust has been in consultation with the Southern IFCA working group, do you not have friends in that part of the world who might advise what that IFCA might be asking DEFRA for advice on? The EU has set the MLS for Bass at 37.5cm they say at that size Bass can and do reproduce so not much chance of any changes there, but the word is the Angling Trust and the Bass Fishing Society want that increased. Chances are that will mean sea angling will concede while the commercial sector keeps to 37.5 nothing new in that given the track record on Tope and Eel debacle, it will be seen as a victory by their sea committee too but who helped destroy the one voice that could have made a difference? Oh yes it was YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  12. http://www.rodbenders.net/wp-content/uploa...inalVersion.pdf http://www.rodbenders.net/wp-content/uploa...tionQ&A.PDF
  13. Seems the Eel is still in trouble.................... http://www.ices.dk/committe/acom/comwork/r...012/eel-eur.pdf
  14. Both the Angling Trust and the Bass Fishing Society are pushing for the UK to increase the MLS for Bass. The EU has set the MLS for Bass at 37.5 at that size they say Bass can and do reproduce, while others including the Angling Trust’s Conservation rep Malcolm Gilbert dispute this. They would like to see an MLS of 48 and are asking the UK to adopt 40 across the board now with a view to increasing this to 48 over the next few years. The Trust will sight the EU landing figures which increase year on year to support their claim that the stock must be falling; they will add to that the fact that some areas well known for its Bass fishery in the UK are seeing a decline in landing numbers, the far South West being a prime example. The idea that a bigger MLS and Bag limits for RSA will make a difference is about as daft as it gets and without the support of the commercial sector at EU level then all that will be achieved there is more discards not more and bigger fish. What is needed impo to protect Bass is the introduction of a TAC particularly on the breading stock in the Channel something all sides seem to agree on the trouble is the demand across Europe for Bass outweighs this and nothing is likely to change until the stock really is seen to be in trouble. Meanwhile the Trust and co. will push for a bigger MLS and if they get it they will claim it as some sort of battle won.
  15. Point is I’m not on any ones side Shaun if I were it would probably be that of a sceptic to all these claims of empty sea’s that are supposedly devoid of fish. Just the same as global warming were we are told we are killing the planet by producing too much co2, when the truth is we can’t come close to matching that produced naturally. If I were to defend this lot Isabella Lovin would be a good place to start. She is a reporter and Green MP in the Swedish Parliament her book is a good read and asks many good questions, what can’t be denied is she has researched the various issues in some detail. Then there is Green Peace, Professor Cullum Roberts, Pew and as you say WWF to mention a few. Google any of them but you know that already don’t you? The one thing that never gets a mention in all this and I include global warming is the Sun. It’s our star and provides us with heat and light it drives our weather and affects sea currents and almost all marine life. Like all stars as it ages it gets both larger and hotter and the various solar storms affect us more than we fully understand. What I will say in closing is and this is for Wurzel. I’m inclined to agree with you about the masses being “Brain Washed” that’s nothing new but to dismiss the word ‘Overfishing’ out of hand is wrong impo. Professor Ray Hilborn is a leader in the field of marine research indeed I recall him saying much the same as you about the Grand Banks Cod, he too has published a book, it’s called ‘Overfishing what everyone needs to know’ I’m reading it at present and I was at a conference which he addressed last year the man is no mug and he has the ear of government.
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