Hello there. Im wondering the way I would do a Simple dead bait ledger pike rig would be with a 3oz lead weight. But i've seen in many angling books people just use 3 or 4 swannies, but with a 3oz lead you can tell if the rig is too shallow, as the lead totally buries the float and you would then adjust the depth. But with 3 or 4 swan shot they are not heavy enough to sink the big pike float so how would I tell if my rig is too shallow. Many thanks Dan.