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On 10/10/2023 at 12:52 PM, chesters1 said:
Bread is very underated I have caught every UK fish I have ever caught on bread at some time , yes even pike and perch I presume they see it sinking and grab it instinctively?
As for mullet they are finiky at the best of times and catching them on anything hard ,I once saw one heading for the hills seeing a small feather drifting down towards the surface never mind a bit of bread ,only ever caught two small ones as I don't fish for them since I was a kid desperate to try to catch them in port Seton harbour long ago
Chesters, I agree for coarse fish, but what about sea fish? That's what struck me as so surprising in Menorca, seeing other sea fish in addition to mullet going for the bread.
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Thanks everyone.
It was amazing the way such a variety of fish went for the bread just floating on the surface. I wonder why they don't in UK? You'd think they'd want the protein.
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I was recently on hols in Menorca, and briefly fished the marina at Cala Galdana. If you threw in a few bits of bread there was a feeding frenzy - mullet (I think), sea bream, and other species. Every now and then 'woosh' something bigger came up from below, probably mullet. I didn't stay long for various reasons, not least that my bad back wasn't happy with me not having a chair. But thinking of the future, what would be the best way to stop the little ones getting to the bait first? Will mullet take a fairly solid blob of breadpaste? Or even a boilie?
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Thanks, Chesters
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Has anyone worked out how to switch them from Kg to lbs and oz?
John
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On 10/22/2022 at 12:04 PM, Blackbird said:
Missed bites with worm is always down to nipping the end and not engulfing the bait.
Maggots for that reason would be a better bet.
Neil, I agree about the perch nipping the end of the worm, but the problem with maggots, certainly in the Thames, is that you get endless nibbles from prey fish. I tried it today. I had a number 6 hook and lobworm, but the response was slow so I put on six maggots, but it came back each time with the ends of all the maggots nipped. Maybe I should have put on a smaller hook, but I tried that a couple of weeks ago and I caught lots of mini fish, though I did have one decent perch on admittedly who shed the small barbless hook.
But I shouldn't dismiss maggots too quickly. When it gets colder the mini fish won't be so prolific. It would be interesting to know how you (or anyone else) go about fishing for perch with maggot. For example, would I be right in thinking barbless hooks are not a good idea with perch?
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I've never used a weigh sling as I weigh fish in the net and then subtract the weight of the net. But I've noticed the weight of the net varies by up to 4 oz, possibly as a result of the wind. Has anyone else found this? Presumably the answer is to get a weigh sling?
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I tried all the above ideas today, though hard to deduce anything definite as there were a lot more bites, so inducing bites wasn't the main problem. There was a problem, though, with me missing what looked like good bites, I think because they felt resistance even from my shaved down quiver tip. Peter's suggestion of cutting the worm in half helped the most with this. Thanks Peter, indeed thank y'all!
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Thanks for useful ideas, will hopefully try them all.
Chris, I know you usually use a float when after perch. Do you do anything to give motion and life to the bait?
John
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I fished a swim on the Thames today with lobworm using ledger, as it was a high bank and I couldn't see a float while sitting which I need to do. I had one reasonable fish of 1.5lbs, but then it went very quiet even though I was pretty sure there were other perch there. So I tried inching the worm through the swim, but this got them nipping at the worm but not taking it.
It occurs to me I was too close to the swim, so that could have scared them. But have you any tricks for persuading them to bite? Oh, I used lobworm flavoured groundbait which I think has worked in the past. But is making the bait move the best way, or would I do better to bring a lure rod in addition to the feeder rod? Or would that just scare them completely!
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Rivers or lakes?
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Congratulations, Dave, you give hope for us all! What method did you use?
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Thanks. The place I'm going to is a commercial fishery in N Yorks. I agree with you both, I wish there weren't any Ide there!
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One day next week I hope to fish a commercial fishery that has ide, and may need to identify a fish as being roach or ide. The trouble with the stuff I find on the web is that it relies on the number of scales on the lateral line, and in the heat of battle I'm not sure I'd get that right! Does anyone here catch ide? How do you identify them vis a vis roach?
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Thanks, Chesters, I hadn't heard of Peltier fridges. I'll certainly think about that, though maybe won't be in time to get one for next week where I'll only be fishing for 3 days
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What do you do on hols etc to make the maggots last as long as poss without a fridge. Does covering with a wet cloth work. Or do casters last longer than maggots if they're kept air tight?
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Thanks Martin, the Ure sounds brilliant and Ripon is just about within an acceptable distance. There's a fishing shop that sells day tickets. I suppose there's no-one who has fished near there and can advise on swims? I'd like to target silvers, given the lack of rain.
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We're going to Rievaulx near Thirsk in North Yorks for a few days and I wondered if there was any coarse fishing in the area other than carp. I'm not aware that any of our regulars come from that area, but if anyone knows the area I'd be glad to hear.
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Well done on the Lea, Alan!
John
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Thanks, Alan
For info last October Terry T Shirt said he was still catching good bags of roach (10 - 15lb) all the way from Buckingham to Bedford, I think, but he , like you, has a lot of experience of the river. The truth is a better roach angler than me would probably equal that on the Thames locally, so that must be my key target. I'm assuming the pipes swim you showed me will be quite clear in summer which might be good for hemp and tares? Bedford may be a bit far, though sounds kinda reliable. Out of interest how big do the roach run to? I've got an A.T. article from last June which claims the roach at Bromham run to 1lb 8 oz, and recommends pellet, though it's apparently quite fast there and might be harder to fish for someone like me with a bad back.
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I bought a cheap one years ago, but I could never get the thick spike into the ground and in the end I binned it. But today I saw a guy with a brolly on very hard ground (gravel and wooden fishing platform) and wondered how on earth he had fixed it. I wandered over and it turned out he had a relatively sit-up kind of chair, and he had tied the brolly with cord to the chair. It looked precarious, but all credit to him it worked!
Do you have a brolly, and if so do you have any problems setting it up?
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Apologies, Alan, I should have looked at a map! As you imply, Bedford is further from me than Milton Keynes. I think I meant Buckingham!
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On 6/18/2022 at 9:34 AM, Whitty said:
I fish a stretch of the Gt Ouse in Bedford,I can assure you it is absolutely solid with roach,dace,perch,skimmers,plus bream,but after Christmas(sometimes before)you will struggle for a bite,on anything,pinkie,maggot,worm,bread,but its still solid,think of it like yourself,when you are full,your not going to eat one more 'waffle thin mint',that is just the way of it,fish are cold blooded,their metabolism slows down to the stage that they won't feed,even chub,a friend of mine was telling me about a match he fished on the Ouse where he spotted a good shoal of nice roach to well over a pound he loose fed casters and the roach ignored them totally,letting them slide down their flanks without moving station,also there are other times when fish are feeding on the loose feed and won't take your baited hook,that makes it appear no fish are present think hard and long here,if every fish that was in the river in the summer shoaled into certain pockets,there would be millions of them,you wouldn't be able to trot through without foul hooking them,I'm afraid that is why it's called fishing not catching....
That makes sense in the majority of cases, but there seem to be exceptions. For example Bayleaf (see his blog this last winter) and I think Peter JG found a swim on the canal where it seemed you could always get plenty of bites from roach, particularly in winter, though from memory they were all small.
Alan, I'm interested in your mention of the Gt Ouse at Bedford. I'm hoping to visit the Ouse this summer or autumn, maybe with hemp and tares, but was thinking the nearest to me might be Milton Keynes. But Bedford would be closer. Do you know if there is any day ticket fishing at or near Bedford?
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On 6/9/2022 at 5:10 PM, Whitty said:
Having just read the early subject matter,can I ask what venue you are feeder fishing,and species being targeted and those present,all these things effect how you may wish to get over problems,if the target species are roach then feeder fishing often isn't the way forward,unless you use a helicopter rig and the roach being targeted are decent....
It was the River Severn at Bewdley
How we Fish (book)
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by Paul Whitehouse and John Bailey. Has anyone read it? Is it any good? Looking head to Christmas!