Tom Pinborough

Hi Elton these details are now confirmed cheers Tom

Hi all Yesterday there was adjourment debate on the marine environment in the House of commons Some relevant extracts the Hansard Record available at: http://www.sacn.org.uk/Conservation-and-Po..._Bass_MLS-.html have a read of Martin Ssalters comments , Ben Bradshaws and Bill Wiggens (shadow fisheries minster) cheers Tom

Grants? What are they Ken? phils brother in eastenders ?

Hi all Good piece in todays Times on pages 34-35 “First catch ten fish then throw nine away”. The article in the paper also shows full size outline of the MLS of Cod, Plaice , Sole Haddock, Herring and 80mm mesh size, it also shows a number of diagrams showing how meshs hold their shape , whether it is diamond , hexagonal or square mesh. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle1582515.ece http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle1582516.ece There is also a piece in the editorial on page 20 cheers Tom

Hi all following the Eastern sea fisheries joint committee statutory meeting of the 24th Jan 07, I now understand that following byelaw has been confirmed by defra . BYELAW 14:- PROHIBITION ON THE REMOVAL OF TOPE OR PART(S) THEREOF "No person shall remove from a fishery any tope of the species (Galeorhinus galeus) or part(s) thereof which is detached from the body. Any tope, if caught, shall be returned immediately to the sea in a postion as near to that part of the sea from which it was taken. All Byelaws correct at 7th December 2006 cheers Tom ------------------------ Limits of the District So much of the sea within six nautical miles from the baselines* from which the breadth of the territorial sea of the United Kingdom adjacent to England is measured, with the adjoining coast, as lies within the following limits namely: On the North, a line drawn seaward true east from the control tower at the Royal Air Force Gunnery and Bombing Range at Donna Nook in Lincolnshire to the limit of the district above described (being the southern boundary of the North-Eastern Sea Fisheries District); and on the south, commencing at the point at which a line drawn seaward along the northern edge of the causeway situated opposite Lower Marine Parade at Dovercourt in the county of Essex intersects the line of mean low water, a line drawn seaward on a bearing 100 degrees true to the limit of the district above described, and a line drawn northward from the said intersection along the boundary of the administrative county of Essex to its intersection with a line drawn across the River Stour, along the seaward side of the railway bridge at Cattawade (being the northern boundary of the Kent & Essex Sea Fisheries District). Provided that a line shall be drawn at or near the mouth of every river or stream flowing into the sea or into any estuary within such limits as follows: A line at or near the mouth of the River Ouse and of the New Bedford River, drawn along the Denver Sluice, and continued in a true westerly direction from the westernmost extremity of such sluice until it reaches high-water mark on the left bank of the said New Bedford River; A line drawn across the River Bure, near its confluence with the River Yare, along the seaward side of the bridge carrying the A47 road at Great Yarmouth; A line drawn across the River Yare near its confluence with Breydon Water along the seaward side of the site of the former Breydon railway viaduct at Great Yarmouth, as defined by the bridge buttresses; A line drawn across Lake Lothing following the double bascule lifting bridge carrying the A12 road at Lowestoft; A line drawn across the River Blyth following the bridge carrying the A12 road at Blythburgh; A line drawn across the River Alde following the bridge carrying the B1069 road at Snape; A line drawn across the River Butley at the highest point to which ordinary tides flow, including Butley Creek; A line drawn across the River Deben following the bridge carrying the A1152 road at Melton; A line drawn across the River Orwell following the bridge carrying the A137 road at Ipswich; A line drawn across the River Stour following the bridge carrying the railway at Cattawade; A straight line across every such river or stream not herein-before specified, such line being drawn at the highest point to which ordinary tides flow into such rivers or streams respectively; And such lines shall be the lines above which the Sea Fisheries District shall not extend into any such river or stream. * “the baselines” means the baselines as they existed at 25th January 1983 in accordance with the Territorial Waters Order in Council 1964 as amended by the Territorial Waters (Amendment) Order in Council 1979.

At the last statutory meeting of the Kent and Essex sea fisheries committee , following a request from Defra , to the Association of sea fisheries committees to assist with the creation bylaws for bag limits on anglers. A decision was made , that the KESFC will be having a technical panel meeting on the 16th January at 10:30am at the Belmont Suite, The Thurrock Hotel, Aveley, Essex, to discuss bag limits on anglers. This is a closed meeting, not open to members of the public For further information on SFC’s and bag limits on anglers see http://www.sacn.org.uk/Conservation-and-Po...or_Anglers.html If you wish your opinions to be known , please email the Kent and Essex sfc’ at Chief fisheries officer is Joss.Wiggins@Kent.gov.uk Clerk is Joan.Taylor@kent.gov.uk Telephone 01843 585310 or 01206 303261 Cheers Tom

Hi all I requested the papers for the bait collection proposal from the K&ESFC , I received them yesterday. Within the papers for the statutory meeting of the Kent and Essex SFC (20th Nov 06) agenda item 11, there is mention of a request to the ASFC'c from defra asking for assistance from sfc's to introduce a bag limit for unlicenced bass fishing. I have further read the paper on agenda item 11 below and the CFO's states I recommend that further consideration should be given to this request from defra, taking into account enforcement capacity and cost members are asked to approve this action cheers Tom

Hi all just a wild guess or two , there is a proposal for a new container terminal on the thames estaury ( where the old oil refineries where at corringham) , I understand that to get the ships in a new channel will have to be dredged, I was led to beleive it would be 300 metres wide , 5 metres deeper and 7 mile long , and the tonnage of spoil is enourmous. there are numerous proposed wind farm projects maybe its related to this ? who knows cheers Tom any other conspiracies.

correction email address is as below joss.wiggins@kent.gov.uk

Essex SFC - CFO. Mr J. Wiggans – The Sail Loft, Shipyard Est, Brightlingsea, Essex. CO7 OAR. Tel: 01206 303261 joss.wiggans@kent.gov.uk or Address: The Ice House, Military Road Ramsgate Kent CT11 9LG Telephone No: 01843 585310 Fax: 01843 585310 E-mail: joan.taylor@kent.gov.uk

A terrible tragedy , my thoughts are with the family and all those that witnessed it. Tom

Following representations to the Eastern Sea Fisheries Joint Committee (ESFJC) by the Recreational Sea Angler representatives appointed by DEFRA, the ESFJC have voted to create a Recreational Sea Angling (RSA) Sub-committee. At the Statutory Meeting of the ESFJC on 25th October (which was also attended by a number of Recreational Sea Anglers sitting in the public gallery) the vote to create the RSA sub committee was passed with the support of all of the committee members bar one. The sub-committee will have 10 members; five elected (county councillors) and five Defra appointees (the two RSA representatives, two representatives from the catching sector and one environmental representative). This will be a public meeting where anglers from South Lincolnshire, Norfolk, Suffolk, North Essex, can meet the ESFJC sub group members and visa versa, leading to a better understanding, feed back can then be reported back to the main committee. A date for the first meeting will be determined and RSA will be asked for its views, comments and concerns. Note: The ESFJC is responsible for fishery bylaws and enforcement in the district out to 6 miles from Donna Nook in Lincolnshire to a boundary through the middle of the river Stour in Essex.

Ian sent in today , acknowledgment received. cheers Tom

Hi cliff I think you will find these are the reports that are printed in Norman's monthly free sea angling news paper , if so it gets updated once a month . is that correct Norman ? cheers Tom

One concern is, following the disappointment of the bass mls negotiations/consultations, who first suggested the sea angling licence ? Was it "our angling representatives", in return for some concession from the Government/Defra, or was it the Government/Defra independantly ? Hi Cranfield As you can clearly see below, it has come from govt , also in short , as I understand it , all RSA orgs have always said , that tangible benefits ( ie things like more and bigger fish , golden mile objectives etc) have to be place before licences , bag limits are in place . As for being sold down the river or could be sold down the river , I have to disagree , if this govt wants to impose regulation it will do ,it is also very good at saying it consulted before imposing regulation . It is also very clear from this forum that everyone has their own ideas on how they think RSA issues should be addressed and not everyone agrees. Sometimes it is very much “death by a thousand arguments” I am currently trying to take time out from RSA issues to concentrate on family and business matters . http://www.strategy.gov.uk/downloads/su/fi...NetBenefits.pdf There is limited information available to determine the true extent and national impact of recreational sea angling on local economies and fish stocks. To improve this situation it is recommended that a voluntary licensing scheme is introduced, along with provision for sea anglers to provide voluntary catch data via a web-based survey system, supplemented by independent research. It is also important to improve our knowledge of the impacts of recreational fishing through targeted research. Funding for additional research could be raised by a voluntary administrative levy administered through existing sea angling organisations. For example, a £10 per year levy raised from 40000 anglers would fund £400,000 worth of annual scientific research. Then it is raised again in the Bradley Review of Inshore Enforcement where they look to charge all 'users' of inshore management and enforcement, including inshore commercial fishermen, a contribution towards the costs. http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/consult/...onsultation.pdf 8.5 In return for these benefits and in accordance with the beneficiary pays principle, consideration should be given to introducing licensing for marine angling analogous to that for inland angling, the net income from which would go to inshore fisheries managers. These funds could be utilised to support research and enforcement as well as habitat creation and protection. It then appears in the MarineBill proposals (Again with proposals to perhaps charge commercials) http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/consult/...ill/consult.pdf 7.26 As part of our commitment to a more active approach to managing recreational fisheries, we need to consider what provisions may be necessary in the Marine Bill to achieve our aims. This may include such measures as introducing “bag limits” for recreational and hobby fishermen to ensure that the impacts of such activities do not adversely affect stocks in the absence of effort control or quota management arrangements applicable in these areas. As part of an overall strategy to actively manage recreational sea angling and allow angling interests to play a stronger role in the management of fishery resources, we will also investigate whether we need powers to charge anglers should this be identified as a preferred option. Cheers Tom