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Guys been a while since ive fished the Medway Can you still fish the medway city estate ?.

I have Never been a great fan of the lady as an individual but on the rare occaision have agreed with some of her points, I find Micheal Fabricant a Baffoon and a nincompoop in the true old English sence of the words, But I can tell the differance between an attempt to be witty and a bit of a wag failed or other wise and a real threat of violence.How much milage can Alibhai Brown get out of this mans ill considerd tweet about punching her in the throat, She is a shameless self promoter, never missess a chance to highlight her self as a victim of Racisum,sexisum,islamaphobia,and being a refugee,a victim of death threats,threats of violence and hate mail, I have Many asian friends some muslim and some female who no doubt have had to suffer simmiler who would gladly hold Fabricants coat and wig whilst he did it. My politics are left of left I am not ashamed of that one iota But every time that women opens her mouth I feel whatever cause she is promoting taking a slip back because of her efforts to help Yasmin Please Shut Up less is More! Violence against women is a disgusting thing and should be dealt with severly,and spoken out against at any oppertunity but to seemingly revel in the fact that you have been threatend to get air time is worse, Comments please!

I could not agree with you more, Cant stand Pie and mash as well Im a disgrace to my Cockney heritage. thay are fantastic Smoked with crusty bread and a bit of horse radish though!

And no doubt the answer lays somewhere in the middle as always. :-)

Indeed However I don't think I challenged your state of mind only eluded to mine at he time of he atrocity I think this qoute sums up my thoughts pretty well "Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one your self " Friedrich Nietzsche German philosopher (1844 - 1900) ... We will always be at a disadvantage in this conflict as we are not still in the Middle Ages it doese not however make it unwinnerble I must add I think old Friedrich died barking mad so maybe your right maybe I will go back to Hugging trees. Kiri-sute gomen permission to decapitate a person of a lower caste take the head and leave the body in order to restore honer flipping hell what an unfortunate username to have to use to post on this subject mate Ken jutsu or Iaido?

If we deny scum rights we become no better than the poeple we are trying to beat. I would like to think I am a bit better than that. My initial thoughts were along the same lines as yours untill I calmed down enough to think straight but do you have the stomach to embrace the full consequences of living in a world where poeple like the murderous scum we are discussing make the rules I remember similar sentiments expressed when PC Kieth Blakelock was decapitated in the Brixton Riots we have come a long way since then and will progress even further in the future keep the rarity of these atrocities in sight before you start giving away what makes us the poeple in the right.

Hi mate The poor young man that was mutilated in broad day light laying in the street was the reason why no one reacted poeple where scared! If you are not trained to deal with traumatic situations you just shut down and watch or run away I've been a bouncer for years before we all became door supervisors and got all warm and fluffy and can hold my own in a confrontation although im bit old and unfit now . But thankfully amid all the crap I have dealt with over the years and the people that I have faced down in a gamult of violent situations I've never had to deal with someone beheading someone in the street. And I'm not sure if I would have done any different to be honest! maybe spontaneously I would have had a go but if I had time to think no I doubt it. Defianatly not without a weapon and a belly full of beer. Those women should be recognised for the bravery they displayed. I'm not sure I would have had it in me. You can't be too quick to judge Paul, an old pall of mine sadly passed now was a Sargent in the gaurds who experienced combat in the Middle East he witnessed a women killed at the end of his road by her estranged husband quite grusumly he was in his early sixties at the time and beat his self up for years for freezing when he felt he should have acted I bet there are plenty of men from that group of onlookers who will have to deal with the same emotions.

These vile individuals can hardly or fairly be held up as representatives of any thing other than a manifestation of their own perverted Egos, I put them in the same box as people who create atrocities such as school shootings and the like, I hope they live to stand trial and never see day light again and if they are lucky maybe their God who ever he is will forgive them but the one who’s name they committed this atrocity in certainly wont! Lets all take the time for a thought for the family and freinds of the Lad who was mindlessly murdered today And for what its worth Nick I agree with you.

Very True! However Reading between the lines though these were not lad's who had fallen back on drugs to ease the horror of war, they were chancers who got caught I wonder if they were caught on the first outing I doubt it.

A bl00dy strange way for a government to show it's gratitude to the people who are expected to give the most.

Sorry to hear about your Brother,The whole global philosophy about the way the drugs trade is approached needs rethinking.I don't believe in her being given sympathy she should be punished but not killed her removal from the gene pool will not make a jot of difference to the worldThe dictionary quote has always made me chuckle was it from a Tarantino movie I can't remember?Kirisute Your not from Siera Leon originally are you the lopping off of limbs was big over there for a while the branding thing sounds a bit Norfolky though

I do She is a damn fool lock her up forever but the death sentence is not going to prevent weak willed poeple getting dragged into being mules. As she did as a case in point. If it does not act as a deterrent it is bad law.

Hi Baz Good to hear from you mate My lefty credentials are in doubt mate I agreed with Cameron about benefit ponce's I've had my epaulettes pulled off and my sword snapped in half after a labour party court martial. I just honestly believe that opting out is not an option we are up to our arm pits in it We lack the infer structure for independence and the funds to create it Everything in the last 40 years has led us to this point we simply have nothing to step back on Scotland may well leave the union and join the EU fully and we will have even less presence in the world plus who knows what's around the corner with the north of Ireland just leaves the the Manx ,Channel islands and Wales and us. Please don't get me wrong I love this country and still will if we stay in but we can't live in the past

Firmly in This country has punched over it's weight in the world for hundreds of years unfortunately we've been found out now as a small island in a cold sea with no heavy industry and a spent economy there is no point in being out side of the euro tent peeing in, best get in and pee out with everyone else far less messy for every one.

Hi Cory Its been a while mate If there was a Jesus he did! right out of it in fact rolled a big stone out the way as well The pastor thing has always made me chuckle An old Nigerian pall of mine was Keen on becoming a pastor. each to his own I thought but after a while it became apparant to me that it was to him a good way to get rich,some of these West African church pastors get to earn rock star status amoungst there flock drive Limos and wear Italian suits when there followers have to sh1t in thier own drinking water. I would have a lot more faith in the chistian faith if more of its preachers showed a bit of solidarity with the followers some do granted but not enough.

Dipheria, tetanas and polio I think I think the shot you are talking about is the human papiloma virus Jab Girls only about 12 I think.

And irony upon irony Kazachstan and Austrialia Tie with seven golds each. Looks like old Borats been down the gym Bruce.

Hi mate It looks to me like your trying to pick a turd up by the clean end, I think I understand the statement you made about kids rights or lack of them I personaly (correct me if im wrong) think you where refering to the right of self determination at a young age something that has a foot in both sides of the debate about belief,I would say that the most die hard childrens rights activist would agree with a person not wanting little Johny at nine being alowed to eat macdonalds every meal washed down with a tin of stella whilst watching a porno no matter how into the rights of the child they are,and how hard the kid might think he had a right to do it. The rights that Emma refers to are the right to an education, not being forced to fight as a child soldier,basicly the right to be nurtured. you used a very broad brush stroke in your statement about them not having any now your reaping the whirlwind The UN is a toothless tiger in a lot of cases but not all a recent conviction in the hauge of the ex Libierion president was in no small way down to conventions past in the UN along with many not all peace keeping operations I bet the east timories are glad of the convention that paved the way for the kiwi and Aussie peace keeping operation. I agree with your right to an opinion and I think Emma would as well trouble is we all have one maybe I way off the mark with my evaluation of what you posted but again its only my opinion.

Andy its taken me twenty od years to work out how to turn one on, youve just gone right over my head with that bit of advise joking aside the filter sits on the server so it all doe on the way through if you know what I mean.

I would say go for it but be prepared for hefty legal bills no legal aid is availerble as far as I know for Slander or Liable thats why its mostly the rich who pursue such cases. Are there threats impied or otherwise in the posts these would be a better way to go legaly. I know nothing of face book other than Ive found a few old mukkers on there and met them for a beer. I dont post on it at all It is with utter disbilief I find poeple playing thier lives out on it beats me why they do it. I wish you and your daughter well mate and Hope things come right

Thank you I am on a work computor with a stazi like smut filter it very awkward to view links of the you tube type.

I cant think of any other example in civil sociaty, where predudice and segrigation is activley encouraged, indocrination promoted,where injuy can be inficted both mentaly and physicly, abuse is abuse even if it is well meaning. I supose trying to save your childs soul from eternal damnation is every bodies duty from a theological piont of veiw trouble is how do you know if youve done it or not, who keeps the tally its not like theres a big excell spread sheet that you can refer to is it? But there is evedence that isnt anicdotal that would suggest there are beter ways to bring up a child who will be equiped to function in such a way as to not go around Scareing ,bullying , killing and mutalating in the name of the almighty. I am at a bit of a disadvantage in this debate as I can not access the vidio in the opening post so I can only make comment on the posts that I have read. I cant see any evidence of Emma trying to champion any type of cause other than the pionts brought up as relevant in this thread. One thing that I do struggle with is a lot (not all) of poeple of faith come through the bred in method. farther to son mother to daughter root, they profess to be happy and who am I to argue with them the trouble is they start telling me I could be happpier if I blinkerd my self and try there way, not realy seeing that I see them as blinkerd as they see me. To sum up I feel faith schools should not exist, circumsision for non medical reasons be delayed until adult hood excuse the pun! female circumsission be out lawed as this is nothing short OF GBH, and all forms of sectarian activity be treated in teh same way as racisum,or homophobia why should it be treated in any differant way, this forum is an exelent example of diverseity of thought and how we all think our way is the only way I have in the past seen the most liberal of poeple have there veiws lambasted by poeple of polar extremes the term Do gooder is used like doing good is a bad thing and somthing as simple as good mannors is branded as PC. Yet these values put in a religious wrapper become either OK or Nonscence depending on the prevailing wind. Good debate

Pukka

I was a bit slow on the uptake there very droll but whats Davy Crockett got to do with it