Anderoo
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Hey FT, hope you’re doing well. Is this on a river (Thames)? If so, the answer is to fish upstream. Cast slightly upstream, let the feeder drop down, put the rod in the rest pointing at the sky, and feed out a bow of line until the feeder isn’t being pulled out of position by the flow. (This needs a reasonable flow to work.) Experiment with smaller/larger feeders and smaller/bigger bows in the line until it’s balanced against the flow.
When it’s balanced correctly, bites are big drop-backs and very hard to miss. It’s a really effective way of fishing, especially for roach, which can otherwise drive you mad with unhittable taps. Rig is nothing special, running feeder on a quick change swivel. I use a float stop above the hook so it’s quick and easy to shorten/lengthen the tail.
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So brexit is going exactly as well as we predicted, is anyone still on board with this bin fire?
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Really hard to generalise I think, each river will be different, maybe even different stretches of the same river will be different. Each species also prefer different things. Not a very helpful answer I’m afraid!
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I’ve tried this a few times in the past, the times it’s worked I was constantly scattering a few grains in and fishing on the drop up in the water. By constantly I mean a dozen or so grains every few seconds. It’s hard work and (for me at least) doesn’t always work! When it does, it does seem to produce bigger fish, and when they get going it gets like a frenzy.
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They can be oh so delicate on the float but honestly you get some tearing runs on the bolt rigs...!
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Hey everyone, it’s been a while, hope you’re all doing ok. Couldn’t resist a crucian topic :)
I did a bit of crucian fishing a few years ago and caught using both float fishing and bolt rigs with little method feeders. The float fishing was a lot more enjoyable but I didn’t do it after dark, only in daylight. Watching floats with lights on makes my eyes go funny.
I tried the lift method but actually preferred using a very delicate waggler with the bait a couple of inches on the bottom. Most bites were lifts anyway, but not the big lifts you get with the proper lift method.
The little method feeders are very effective if you don’t mind using them. There are lots of good videos on YouTube showing you how to do it.
For baits, I mostly used plastic corn or maggots, or real pellets on the method feeder, and soft hookable pellets when float fishing.-
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To everyone who helped to create the situation we now find ourselves in - I hope you enjoy your winnings. Britain is about to undergo massive and permanent change. I really hope you are right and I am wrong about what that change will mean for us.
I do hope, though, that one day you'll see that people like me were actually on your side all along. Maybe we went about it in the wrong way. I know it sounds patronising and melodramatic, but I can't help that, it's true. We've been trying to protect all of us from what's coming.
There's no more fighting to be done now, so have a good xmas, strap in, and good luck.
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I must confess I wasn't really thinking about pike as I don't really fish for them any more. If you've found some good spots then fill your boots! The locks on the stretches I fish the most have never really been that great but if yours are good, good!
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I've caught lots of perch on drop-shotted lobworms. Jigging them would work too but you'd want a very light jig head so the drop back down is as slow as possible.
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I've never found the lock cuts that great on the Thames, personally. Logic suggests that when the river is up and charging through (as it is now) that's where they should be, but in reality I've always struggled to catch in those spots.
To be honest (and to answer your other topic), when the Thames is like this I don't even bother. It's just not worth it. I'll wait until the colour has dropped out, the level has dropped, and the flow settled down. You might be able to scratch a few fish out if you persist, but everything is against you.
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The thing with facts is that they're true whether you believe them or not.
It is really sad to see so many people radicalised to the point where they actually want to be lied to so they can continue to buy into the grift.
I wonder if anyone can answer me this, as I don't think I'm going to get an answer to a post-brexit immigration strategy (which is weird, right? why not...?). What is brexit today?
1. Teresa May's negotiated agreement + future trade discussions
2. Boris Johnson's negotiated agreement + future trade discussions/possible WTO exit next year
3. Nigel Farage's WTO exit
4. Labour's customs union + close single market alignment
5. Other?
Or is the line still that 17.4 million people knew exactly what they voted for, and if so, which one of the above is the true brexit that you can all agree on?
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I'm hoping that post-Brexit immigration policy is coming soon? What's the plan?
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I know it's close to Panto season, but "Oh no it isn't" isn't much of an argument. Would you care to have a shot at explaining why Britain needs foreign workers.
If you can manage to construct an argument that doesn't hinge upon servicing the 400,000 or so immigrants pouring into the country every year, that would be nice.
Oh, and the allusion to racism just doesn't cut it anymore, especially when you try it on with someone who surrounds themselves with foreigners and was in a 15 year relationship with an Indian woman.
You and others might find this interesting: https://fullfact.org/immigration/eu-migration-and-uk/
As I said before, as EU migration falls, non-EU migration rises. So the total level does not change. I don't know what all those people are doing, but I do know that the UK government has total control over non-EU migration and could cut it to 0 if it wanted to, so I wonder why a government/party which has been so vocal about cutting immigration has actually allowed such a huge increase in non-EU migration when EU migration has fallen so dramatically?
Net EU migration, as it says is currently at around 57,000, not 400,000.
Net non-EU migration is currently at 261,000. This has always been higher than EU migration, which kinda damages the hysteric narrative that we're being flooded by uncontrolled immigration.
6% of the UK population were born in another EU country. SIX per cent.
Finally, 'EU nationals of working age are more likely to be in work than UK nationals and non-EU citizens. About 83% of working age EU citizens in the UK are in work, compared to around 76% of UK nationals and 66% of people from outside the EU.'
Now your turn to dismiss it all
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The Government could do that Andrew, but free movement is seen as a right within the remain camp. It's been endorsed by the Lib Dems, and even the Labour party, in one of their very rare decisive moments. I don't believe that while we are still in the EU any UK Government will introduce the type of immigration controls that I believe this country needs. That means from any part of the world, not just the EU.
John.
'The Government could do that Andrew' - yes, exactly. Thanks.
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The article boasts about wages for fruit picking being between £300 and £500 per week, plus often accommodation thrown in. If they can earn more than that back home, then no amount of incentives will entice them back here. The article doesn't blame wages, it attempts to blame the assumed goals of those who voted for Brexit. As I and many others on here have said, we don't have a problem with immigration, or seasonal workers coming over here. We do have a problem with not having any control who, or how many do come over. It's the spin from the media, and 'interested parties' that creates all this hype, and supposed ill feeling over Brexit.
As I keep saying to you, 'Lies from both sides', and you believe just as many lies as you think others do, but refuse to see those that you think add weight to your argument.
John.
The thing is John, there are loads of other places other than 'here' and 'back home'. Why would people choose here when the exchange rate has tanked and the atmosphere is toxic? There are plenty of other choices. Otherwise, why is loads of our produce now rotting, unpicked, in the fields? Where are all those British workers that were always beaten to those jobs by EU migrants?
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Your basic underlying assumption is wrong. We don't need foreign workers.
If you really believe this, the vote to leave does make some sense. The trouble is, it's simply not true, and people who subscribe to it don't actually care whether it's true or not.
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If there was anything substantive to the story, the Labour Party and the Biased Broadcasting Corporation would be telling us exactly which "rights" are at risk rather than screeching and blustering.
Meanwhile, it the real world, the biggest concerns of most British workers revolve around having their wages driven down by cheap foreign labour, having their housing costs driven up due to uncontrolled immigration, increasing crime linked to uncontrolled immigration and struggling to get their kids into a decent school where all the resources aren't taken up by teaching English as an additional language - All of which will be addressed by leaving the EU and implementing proper immigration control.
Oh mate. British workers will suffer, not prosper, because of brexit. This stuff just runs too deep now for facts to matter. I hope you get what you think you'll get, I really do.
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As John said, cannot read it! From your subsequent post I understand you refer to freedom of movement, you reinforce your opinion by pointing out that immigration will continue. I don’t know what tree or shadow you are barking at but, as usual for some of particular views you are misguided and insulting to suggest that others object to immigration period.
I have stated on here before and for your benefit will repeat myself, I have no objection what so ever to required, controlled immigration. I do not object to people moving to this Country to fill a requirement provided that requirement of skills cannot be met by reasonable foreseeable training and vocational skill attainment by young persons already resident.
I certainly do object, unreservedly and without apology to persons moving here to become part time scrap dealers or part time workers in a hand car wash, being then able to claim working tax credit or benefits for children NOT resident and then NOT spending that money to the benefit of the local economy. That is a recipe for financial doom.
If you still wish to broaden your argument further in the subject of workers rights then post away, personally I think you will find EU workers rights lurking in the shadows of our own.
No, I understand your position completely. I think you will be very disappointed at the reality once we've left the EU. I hope then you direct your anger at our national government, where is belongs.
If you could point me towards an actual immigration strategy to be implemented post-Brexit that would be great. There must be one published, given that immigration was front and centre of the reason to leave, and that we have missed 3 deadlines to leave already?
If there isn't one (and I mean a real one we can hold to account, not the words 'points-based' written on a fag packet), I'd really be asking myself why that is.
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I believe everyone should have a problem with unregulated free movement. How do we provide/plan housing, schools, utilities etc, for an unknown size of population? We have a census every 10 years to determine the numbers, and plan for the future. To have no control over numbers and types of immigrant makes a mockery of the whole thing.
If you were running a business, and needed a set number of workers with specific skills, I doubt anyone would think it good policy to just open the doors to anyone passing, and pay them a wage, contribute to a pension, and benefits, in the hope that some of them were what you needed. The business wouldn't last long, but you would at least have the option of dismissing those that couldn't fill the role.
Andrew, I don't think any political party, and that includes those in the EU, has my kids/grandkids best interests at heart, not just the Tories. I have never voted Tory, but the Brexit vote has been a long time coming, and they provided it. There have been several 'promises' to hold referendums over the years, and both the main parties have reneged on those 'promises', that is one of the reasons that leave won.
John.
Fine, then a British government can introduce much more stringent immigration rules within the EU, e.g. like Belgium does. We don't need to leave the EU to do that.
The police, the Home Office and numerous other agencies have known about issues surrounding human trafficking and modern slavery of Vietnamese nationals in the UK for a very long time and have done nothing about it.
The young men usually end up as "gardeners", growing cannabis indoors for triads and the women end up in sex work or working in nail bars.
Anyone smoking skunk or having their nails done is supporting modern slavery.
Ironically, the best way to stop these deaths (and there have been several similar incidents, including one in Austria) is to have hard borders with much tougher checks for the transportation of illegal cargo (including people) and tougher consequences for those caught breaking the law.
The chances of profitably getting stuff and people through diminishes, the trade ceases to be viable and people stop dying in containers.
This is already illegal and will remain illegal. Totally irrelevant to this topic.
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How on Earth did you arrive at those conclusions?
Let's suppose for a moment that we leave with the EU with no deal and the next government is me - and I'm in particularly belligerent mood.
I decide that my new immigration policy is a much tougher version of the Australian points system, capped at 10,000 per year with zero associated chain migration.
Being magnanimous, I also consent to accept 2,000 genuine UN approved refugees per year, again with zero associated chain migration - and anyone caught illegally arriving from a "safe" EU country by plane, train boat or rubber dingy is immediately asset stripped and deported to a what can best be determined to be their native homeland.
I decide that visitors from the EU, US, Australia, NZ and other select countries get a free 30 day visa on arrival with no associated access to non-emergency healthcare, welfare etc and everyone else applies for a visa vignette at our embassies/consulates in their home countries before embarkation.
I also make it illegal for non British citizens to purchase domestic property and make access to welfare, healthcare and education available to British citizens only.
How exactly is it that "Immigration will remain at current levels"?
Because old chap the future government is not you.
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I would like to see this "very basic factual stuff", as such "factual stuff" in such unpredictable and uncertain times must be treading on the toes of old Nostradamus.
As I've said before I can take it or leave it whether we end up remaining or leaving, i'll just accept it. What I find hard to accept is when MP's refuse to honour the wishes of the majority of the citizens who pay their salary, unlimited expense accounts and big fat pensions. I don't care what party they are members of, whether they are in power, in opposition or independent. A referendum was put to the country and an answer was given, regardless of whether the answer was to remain or leave it is their duty as public servants to carry out the wishes of the people. If for whatever reason they feel they can't or won't deliver on the wishes of the majority, then they should resign immediately from public office.
The wishes of the majority were to leave on the terms promised in the campaign. That was the answer that was given. If you want to leave on different terms, we need to be asked a different question.
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If you have a problem with free movement, youre in for a world of hurt when this first easy stage is finished and we move on to the next complicated part of sorting out free trade deals with countries around the world.
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https://twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1187815316228919297?s=21Sorry Andrew, but have you got anything that doesn't require a subscription?
John.
Likely to be mainstream news soon but really not unexpected, you think a Tory government has your/your kids/your grandkids best interests at heart? What do you think this whole project is for?
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The end of free movement is an erosion of our rights. If you think it means the end of immigration youre sadly mistaken. Immigration will remain at current levels whether free movement of EU citizens remains or not. If the number of Eu immigrants fall, the number of non-Eu citizens will rise. The levels of immigration will be completely unchanged, but uk citizens will be at a massive disadvantage. Ill dig out the charts if you need me to but this is very basic factual stuff.
RIP Rusty
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I’ve only just seen this, I’m so sorry to hear this awful news. I had the pleasure of fishing with rusty a few times and he was always such good company. He always put as much effort into dinner plans as the fishing, and I respected that
Condolences to family and close friends. I lost my girlfriend to cancer in January, it’s a terrible disease and losing someone before their time is an almost impossible thing to deal with. I hope you can come to terms with it in time, and remember him fondly.