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Does anyone have a carp rod I can borrow capable of landing (several :P :P :P) 40lb carp?

 

Rich

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NO all out of carp rods that will take anything like that Im afraid Rich :nonono: !

 

You best behave yourself this year and do the honourable thing by blanking.Steve tells me he will be confiscating all your bait when you arrive any way! :P


And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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Hi Errm,

 

I'll probably repeat what everyone else has said but don't got too light the tench fight like nutters and will smash a too light setup! I use a very short braid hooklength in 10lb usually but mono is fine. As Steve says the bars are very sharp, last time I fished I had to keep binning the last 10 feet of my 12lb mono main line due to the damage from the bars. As for hooks the first time I fished Wingham I used some Fox match carp hooks which opened out on the first few tench, I quickly switched to a stronger hook pattern ;).

 

I don't use back leads, unless you usually use them I wouldn't use them.

 

I'd use a semi fixed bolt rig type setup with any feeder or lead you care to use! Running rigs are fine but require more concentration, and if you only get a few runs over the two days you'll do well to spend 48hrs awake and by the rods!

 

The best advice I can think of is try to fish to your strengths and what you are confident with, Wingham can be quite unforgiving, its not really a place to try something out for the first time!

 

Rich

Hmmm ok, it was suggested that I think about a running rig... the only issue I have with a semi fixed lead is baiting. I don't have the equipment for spodding bait out so I was going to use something like an open ended feader with groundbait and loose feed, is it possible to turn this into a semi fixed bolt rig? I guess I could use something like the korda safety clips to semi fix the feeder but would I get the neccesary bolt effect of only about 1oz of lead?

 

I'm learning more but it just leads to more questions and confusion :-)

 

Errrm

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I'm learning more but it just leads to more questions and confusion :-)

 

Dont stress over it mate! Good bit of advice was to use what your comfortable with.

 

But if you want to try a different aproach then Im going to be doing more socialising than fishing this year and can gladly show you a few methods (and Ive got spare gear if required) if thats of any interest to you?

 

Winghams a great place just to be. But that said it does give you a really great chance of some terrific fish so its sensible not to let it pass!

 

Same goes for everyone else.


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Dont stress over it mate! Good bit of advice was to use what your comfortable with.

 

But if you want to try a different aproach then Im going to be doing more socialising than fishing this year and can gladly show you a few methods (and Ive got spare gear if required) if thats of any interest to you?

 

Winghams a great place just to be. But that said it does give you a really great chance of some terrific fish so its sensible not to let it pass!

 

Same goes for everyone else.

 

Any advice about this type of fishing would be great (although I'll warn you I tend to ask questions!) and any methods/rigs you can show me would be great. I think going with what I'm comfortable with is sensible but I've never really fished this style at all so I'm currently thinking semi-fixed might be what I'm most confortable with because I know what the bites will look like, I am used to fishing a running ledger with a quiver tip and the concept of letting the bobbin rise to the top and only then striking is confusing me, surely the fish it quite likely to have ejected the bait by then? I'm hopefully going to try and cover all bases and by the end of the first day I hopefully will have learnt enough to change tactics.

 

Cheers :-)

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I was going to use something like an open ended feader with groundbait and loose feed, is it possible to turn this into a semi fixed bolt rig? I guess I could use something like the korda safety clips to semi fix the feeder but would I get the neccesary bolt effect of only about 1oz of lead?

 

I tried this last week, with a 1.5oz Fox open end feeder. Worked OK, had several tench on it.

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Any advice about this type of fishing would be great (although I'll warn you I tend to ask questions!) and any methods/rigs you can show me would be great. I think going with what I'm comfortable with is sensible but I've never really fished this style at all so I'm currently thinking semi-fixed might be what I'm most confortable with because I know what the bites will look like, I am used to fishing a running ledger with a quiver tip and the concept of letting the bobbin rise to the top and only then striking is confusing me, surely the fish it quite likely to have ejected the bait by then? I'm hopefully going to try and cover all bases and by the end of the first day I hopefully will have learnt enough to change tactics.

 

Cheers :-)

 

Errm there will be lots of pepole there happy to help you! I'll have all my tench tackle with me so can lend you bits and bobs if you need!

 

You can easily make your feeders semi fixed but adding something behind the swivel of the feeder to stop it sliding up the line in the event of a bite the only thing you have to do is make sure it can come off in the even of a line breakage. You could do this using a rubber float stop or by tying on the feeder with a patenoster "rotten bottom" so that the line attaching the feeder snaps before the main line.

 

Have a look here: http://www.shellangling.com/pdfs/Feeder%20...and%20tench.pdf

 

Do you have bait runner type reels?

 

Rich

 

Same goes for everyone else.

 

 

Carp rod please :D :D :D

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Errm there will be lots of pepole there happy to help you! I'll have all my tench tackle with me so can lend you bits and bobs if you need!

 

You can easily make your feeders semi fixed but adding something behind the swivel of the feeder to stop it sliding up the line in the event of a bite the only thing you have to do is make sure it can come off in the even of a line breakage. You could do this using a rubber float stop or by tying on the feeder with a patenoster "rotten bottom" so that the line attaching the feeder snaps before the main line.

 

Have a look here: http://www.shellangling.com/pdfs/Feeder%20...and%20tench.pdf

 

Do you have bait runner type reels?

 

Rich

 

 

 

 

Carp rod please :D :D :D

 

I'll have a read of that tonight. I don't currently have any bait runner type reels. I was speaking to Steve Burke about it as he suggested that they weren't required only that they would be better as long as I remembered to not strike before taking the bait runner off. I can borrow one of my dad but I turn mind buying a couple of cheapish Okuma ones if I can find some as I will use them again I'm sure.

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Carp rod please :D :D :D

 

Are you serious? If yes then ask me nicely :D and maybe come up with something! :lol:


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I'll have a read of that tonight. I don't currently have any bait runner type reels. I was speaking to Steve Burke about it as he suggested that they weren't required only that they would be better as long as I remembered to not strike before taking the bait runner off. I can borrow one of my dad but I turn mind buying a couple of cheapish Okuma ones if I can find some as I will use them again I'm sure.

 

Errm, baitrunners make life easier but aren't essential. But unless you're sitting right next to your rods, slacken the clutch right off or you're likely to lose a rod! Just remember to tighten again before striking, or cup the spool while you strike and then tighten up.

 

I'm also happy to help out on the bank if you want to try something new.

 

Have a look here for rig ideas: http://www.tenchfishers.com/toprigs.html#

 

The one I mostly use for tench is under the heading 'Safe Boilie Rig with in line lead' (but you can use any bait). The swivel of the hooklength pulls into the sleeve in the lead, which holds it in place. You get real screaming runs so remember to slacken your clutch! Use a short (4") hooklength.

 

If you're most comfortable using running leger rigs, stick to them. It really doesn't matter much. Nearly all the bites I have there on running rigs are just as vicious as the bolt rigs!

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